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Too many "like's" and "I mean" filler words. Things become unreadable/unlistenable when when every other sentence has an unnecessary like injected into it.

by PKop 3y ago

chrisweekly 3y ago
Yeah, transcripts of verbal conversations are like that.
- PKop 3y ago
  No I don't think we should excuse speaking this way, which isn't something everyone does nor something so many people did years ago. It is a particular style of speaking that is over-represented in certain journalist types.
  - kibwen 3y ago
    The use of "like" in this way has been attested since the 1920s, and had been overwhelmingly common in colloquial American English for around 30 years.
    - PKop 3y ago
      It's, I mean, distracting and unpleasant to, like, listen to when every other sentence has, like, meaningless words injected into them which, I mean, could, like, be removed without changing the meaning at all but which, I mean, would be more, like, concise and sound better. No, it is certainly not true that people have been talking this way since the 20's nor that radio shows, media, journalists etc presented information in this sloppy manner. It is trivially verifiably not just a default way of talking by listening to podcasters or journalists that exist right now that don't do this but also watching/listening to older media especially. This is akin to vocal fry, another recent grating social phenomenon that has become acceptable for a certain type of public speaker that is drastically different than most people and media types spoke even in the 80's and 90's let alone decades prior.
  - genewitch 3y ago
    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealisticDictionIsUnrealistic https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealisticDiction...
hackernewds 3y ago
This is a transcript of a podcast - but I hear your point about impressive communication
- PKop 3y ago
  Quite obviously this is a podcast, that's why I said "unlistenable" as well. At least with written word you can sort of skip over it and don't have to hear it. In any case this isn't a universal requirement of the genre; it is a more recent thing where it is acceptable to speak this way and not everyone does it nor did so many used to do it.

Too many "like's" and "I mean" filler words. Things become unreadable/unlistenable when when every other sentence has an unnecessary like injected into it.

by PKop 3y ago

Too many "like's" and "I mean" filler words. Things become unreadable/unlistenable when when every other sentence has an unnecessary like injected into it.

chrisweekly 3y ago

Yeah, transcripts of verbal conversations are like that.

PKop 3y ago
No I don't think we should excuse speaking this way, which isn't something everyone does nor something so many people did years ago. It is a particular style of speaking that is over-represented in certain journalist types.
- kibwen 3y ago
  The use of "like" in this way has been attested since the 1920s, and had been overwhelmingly common in colloquial American English for around 30 years.
  - PKop 3y ago
    It's, I mean, distracting and unpleasant to, like, listen to when every other sentence has, like, meaningless words injected into them which, I mean, could, like, be removed without changing the meaning at all but which, I mean, would be more, like, concise and sound better. No, it is certainly not true that people have been talking this way since the 20's nor that radio shows, media, journalists etc presented information in this sloppy manner. It is trivially verifiably not just a default way of talking by listening to podcasters or journalists that exist right now that don't do this but also watching/listening to older media especially. This is akin to vocal fry, another recent grating social phenomenon that has become acceptable for a certain type of public speaker that is drastically different than most people and media types spoke even in the 80's and 90's let alone decades prior.
- genewitch 3y ago
  https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealisticDictionIsUnrealistic https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealisticDiction...

hackernewds 3y ago

This is a transcript of a podcast - but I hear your point about impressive communication

PKop 3y ago
Quite obviously this is a podcast, that's why I said "unlistenable" as well. At least with written word you can sort of skip over it and don't have to hear it. In any case this isn't a universal requirement of the genre; it is a more recent thing where it is acceptable to speak this way and not everyone does it nor did so many used to do it.