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It was dobę. It is Linux

by kakaz 3y ago

7thaccount 3y ago
Linux isn't quite right either, but certainly a big improvement
- sgarland 3y ago
  How is it not? You can literally piece together an OS with precisely what you want, and nothing else. Gentoo, Arch, LFS, and NixOS all come to mind, with varying levels of complexity and repeatability.
  - 7thaccount 3y ago
    There's a bit more DIY than I'm ready for from an OS perspective I guess. I'm pretty happy living in the Linux terminal, but configuring every little thing is beyond me at present absent a large amount of effort.
    - nicman23 3y ago
      > wants a bare metal os with just a database > doesn't want to configure it what.
      - 7thaccount 3y ago
        Lol crazy sounding right? I work at a large company though, so getting IT approval to run my own ground up Gentoo instance is not ever going to fly. I was just thinking about what other kinds of computing possibilities are...well... possible. And also how much I dislike having this massive Windows API (or whatever) in my way. As an engineer doing simulations, I really just need a workstation with a few primitives that I wouldn't want to build myself such as matrix routines, optimization solvers, graphics primitives, reports, and file I/O. If some company sold a workstation that glued all of that together in something like a modern C64, you'd have something pretty cool. Sure you can just run various apps on a modern OS...but there is just so much garbage going on there that makes it a pain to do your job (also a lot that makes things easier too of course). I guess I'm wishing for something like a dedicated computer that's more like a modern lisp machine or smalltalk Xerox Park machine or something for scientists/engineers. None of this will ever happen of course unless I get a trillion dollars and can setup a team to design the hardware and software. I can prob find a better use for that kind of money too ;) Anyway, just trying to talk about what I think about when I'm cobbling together things. I don't think Windows/Mac/Linux/Android/iOS are very efficient for all needs and it's a bit of a shame when I think of how many scientists are stuck in configuration, software installation, and API hell when what they really need is some kind of super souped-up calculator.
        sgarland 3y ago
        It sounds like what you really want is a Jupyter Notebook, optionally with an RDBMS other than SQLite, and libraries to handle it. Have you considered running a minimal OS in a container? You can mount a persistent data volume to it. Should even work in Windows, assuming you have access to WSL2, although AFAIK you can’t do GPU pass-through if that matters.

It was dobę. It is Linux

by kakaz 3y ago

It was dobę. It is Linux

7thaccount 3y ago

Linux isn't quite right either, but certainly a big improvement

sgarland 3y ago
How is it not? You can literally piece together an OS with precisely what you want, and nothing else. Gentoo, Arch, LFS, and NixOS all come to mind, with varying levels of complexity and repeatability.
- 7thaccount 3y ago
  There's a bit more DIY than I'm ready for from an OS perspective I guess. I'm pretty happy living in the Linux terminal, but configuring every little thing is beyond me at present absent a large amount of effort.
  - nicman23 3y ago
    > wants a bare metal os with just a database > doesn't want to configure it what.
    - 7thaccount 3y ago
      Lol crazy sounding right? I work at a large company though, so getting IT approval to run my own ground up Gentoo instance is not ever going to fly. I was just thinking about what other kinds of computing possibilities are...well... possible. And also how much I dislike having this massive Windows API (or whatever) in my way. As an engineer doing simulations, I really just need a workstation with a few primitives that I wouldn't want to build myself such as matrix routines, optimization solvers, graphics primitives, reports, and file I/O. If some company sold a workstation that glued all of that together in something like a modern C64, you'd have something pretty cool. Sure you can just run various apps on a modern OS...but there is just so much garbage going on there that makes it a pain to do your job (also a lot that makes things easier too of course). I guess I'm wishing for something like a dedicated computer that's more like a modern lisp machine or smalltalk Xerox Park machine or something for scientists/engineers. None of this will ever happen of course unless I get a trillion dollars and can setup a team to design the hardware and software. I can prob find a better use for that kind of money too ;) Anyway, just trying to talk about what I think about when I'm cobbling together things. I don't think Windows/Mac/Linux/Android/iOS are very efficient for all needs and it's a bit of a shame when I think of how many scientists are stuck in configuration, software installation, and API hell when what they really need is some kind of super souped-up calculator.
      - sgarland 3y ago
        It sounds like what you really want is a Jupyter Notebook, optionally with an RDBMS other than SQLite, and libraries to handle it. Have you considered running a minimal OS in a container? You can mount a persistent data volume to it. Should even work in Windows, assuming you have access to WSL2, although AFAIK you can’t do GPU pass-through if that matters.