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> they are not worthy sacrificing the very values all nations agreed to after the horrors of WW2. I honestly don't understand what you mean. Why did Europe t

> they are not worthy sacrificing the very values all nations agreed to after the horrors of WW2. I honestly don't understand what you mean. Why did Europe take so many Syrians (and later on - Afghans, and now Ukranians), was that sacrificing the very values of all nations? That's the opposite of the values you seem to be talking about. You seem to imply that Palestinians are somehow different form all other groups of people under war like Syrians, Afghans, Ukrainians etc. It seems to me like the decent thing to do - no one can force anyone to evacuate but you seem to want to prevent everyone from evacuating even if they want to, that's a bizarre stand to take if you care about Palestinians or human rights in general.

runarberg 3y ago
I think you are talking about the right to asylum, which is a UN right but very lacking in implementations. I never ever so much as hinted that this right should be taken away from Palestinians. I don’t even know where in my text you could have gotten the idea that I said something like that, let alone that I wanted to prevent people from evacuating. That you would interpret my words this way, only reinforces my previous belief that you are not arguing in good faith. No I want Palestinians to be able to live in their home without risking their lives and limbs. The way to do that is with ceasefire. The USA and Israel are the only two parties to this conflict who are preventing a ceasefire. > Why did Europe take so many Syrians [etc.] Previously you hinted at a conspiracy theory regarding this. As such I’m very reluctant to debate this with you. But to clarify, the values I’m talking about is that of life and dignity. Pretty much the international deceleration of human rights, and several international agreements that followed, such as the right of the child, prevention of genocide, etc. Israel is breaking several of these in their war against Hamas. What I am saying is that they shouldn’t. Hamas is not worth breaking these agreements, both legally speaking, but much more morally speaking. What Israel has become is something very much worse than any terrorist organization can dream of.
- weatherlite 3y ago
  > I think you are talking about the right to asylum, which is a UN right but very lacking in implementations. I never ever so much as hinted that this right should be taken away from Palestinians OK good so we actually agree, I don't see we have an argument. You're going on again and again about how Israel is bad, genocide etc it wasn't connected to anything I said at all so I'm not going to reply to that.

runarberg 3y ago

I think you are talking about the right to asylum, which is a UN right but very lacking in implementations. I never ever so much as hinted that this right should be taken away from Palestinians. I don’t even know where in my text you could have gotten the idea that I said something like that, let alone that I wanted to prevent people from evacuating. That you would interpret my words this way, only reinforces my previous belief that you are not arguing in good faith. No I want Palestinians to be able to live in their home without risking their lives and limbs. The way to do that is with ceasefire. The USA and Israel are the only two parties to this conflict who are preventing a ceasefire. > Why did Europe take so many Syrians [etc.] Previously you hinted at a conspiracy theory regarding this. As such I’m very reluctant to debate this with you. But to clarify, the values I’m talking about is that of life and dignity. Pretty much the international deceleration of human rights, and several international agreements that followed, such as the right of the child, prevention of genocide, etc. Israel is breaking several of these in their war against Hamas. What I am saying is that they shouldn’t. Hamas is not worth breaking these agreements, both legally speaking, but much more morally speaking. What Israel has become is something very much worse than any terrorist organization can dream of.

weatherlite 3y ago
> I think you are talking about the right to asylum, which is a UN right but very lacking in implementations. I never ever so much as hinted that this right should be taken away from Palestinians OK good so we actually agree, I don't see we have an argument. You're going on again and again about how Israel is bad, genocide etc it wasn't connected to anything I said at all so I'm not going to reply to that.