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Show HN: Official Release of Gmelius, A Better Gmail in Chrome, Firefox & Opera
- chrisacky 14y agoIs there a source for this? I'm not sure how to view source of extensions. I'm sure nothing bad happens, I just wanted to see how some of what you do is achieved. I wanted to make a similar extension for myself for browsing HN. Cheers.
- CWIZO 14y agoCan Google come after you in any way for disabling ads? I would think that you are in the clear, otherwise AdBlocker would not exist, but I could be wrong. The "icons for attachments" is the killer feature for me and would install an extension only for that. It will really save me time. Cheers! edit: can you remove the button? It does nothing but provide short-cuts to options and update (which I don't really get since extensions auto-update). I know I can hide it, but it would be better (IMO) to include the link to settings/donate somewhere in gmail.
- Drbble 14y agoYou Gmelius, probably not, since ads are a private contract EULA thing, not a public law thing. You the user, if Google got desperate and tone-deaf, and an additional agreement were actually in the EULA.
- option_greek 14y agoThe UI modifications are great. Finally, someone else is providing UI features that should have been there by default in Gmail.
- primigenus 14y agoTwo questions my dad would have if I showed this to him: - How do I pronounce this? - What does "poly-browser extension" mean? It doesn't matter that it's cross-browser or even that it's an extension. Those are descriptions of the technical architecture. What matters is how it makes my life better: it improves Gmail by getting rid of ads, etc. Perhaps my dad isn't your target audience. But it might be worth testing an alternate design that includes more accessible copy.
- evincarofautumn 14y agoI read it as G+melius /dʒiˑˈmɛliˌ(j)əs/, roughly like Gmail+ius /dʒiˑˈmeɪɫˌjəs/.
- frederico 14y agoi think you missed his point..
- evincarofautumn 14y agoWhat, because I used IPA? You can’t reliably describe a pronunciation in many other ways.
- wjbr 14y agoI read the original as an indirect question. Will anyone be able to pronounce this?
- evincarofautumn 14y agoI’m not sure how much it matters. People mispronounce “Imgur” all the time, yet it’s still widely used.
- xpressyoo 14y agoG[melius] to pronounce like Gmail+ius. "melius": better in latin.
- alexyoung 14y ago"Experiment Gmail™ without ads" Experience?
- twodayslate 14y agoBeen using this for a while! Thanks! I love the labels with icons.
- cool-RR 14y agoHere's what will make me use this: Keyboard shortcuts for everything, including text-styling when composing a message. I want to be able to use 100% of GMail's functionality without ever touching the mouse. If your product would do that, and work well and not have any big issues, I'd pay $50 for it.
- arunoda 14y agoI would not use this for 2 reasons 1. I love consider including. It's great 2. I don't know how this affect rapportive If you have a feature to enable/disable tweeks. Then It would be awesome
- davidradcliffe 14y agoYou can enable or disable any of the tweaks. All disabled by default.
- arunoda 14y agoWow. Then it'll be great.
- Khao 14y agoAll I see is "Gmail™, Gmelius™, Gmail™, Gmail™, Gmelius™, Gmail™". Is it really necessary to put a symbol next to them everytime in every paragraph? The whole page is littered with ™ symbols. I find it difficult to read with all this, but maybe it's just me who's picky. Aside from this, I see a lot of potential for a great plugin, but all those features Gmelius claims to remove since they are annoying, are features I like. And all the things Gmelius adds to Gmail, are stuff I couldn't care less for. This plugin is really not appealing to me and I think it's because, to me at least, Gmail is simply great and there is pretty much nothing to add except maybe enable a few Labs options. It seems to me that this plugin is really useless because there is practically nothing to change to Gmail to make it great in my opinion.
- marcusf 14y agoThere's a few things to object to in the plugin (like a comment below I find that removing ads together with asking for donations a very distasteful combo), but honestly, what value does your comment add except trying to put down the authors? There are ways to critique something without calling it "really useless".
- Khao 14y agoI'm giving my honest opinion and I'm saying that I really love Gmail the way it is without any extra plugin. I think it's feedback that matters to the authors, maybe they will find that some of their potential user base find no added value in their plugin and they will try to come up with other features that will attract users such as me.
- kjhughes 14y agoI find it distasteful, perhaps even unethical, to encourage removal of ads from ad-supported services. Google offers substantial functionality in exchange for the opportunity to show its users ads.
- philjackson 14y agoWhat I find makes it slightly worse is they're asking for donations.
- jackalope 14y agoThe main risk of advertising is that it will be ignored. It comes with the territory.
- jusben1369 14y agoSurely you're not equating "removed" with "ignored" right?
- jackalope 14y agoIn this case, yes, since it's an extension available for individual users to install. I don't see much of a distinction between removed/ignored if it's a personal preference. For example, it would be wrong of my postman to discard advertising flyers for everyone on his route, but please don't tell me that I'm unethical for immediately discarding them simply because they help subsidize low postage rates.
- kjhughes 14y agoSystematically preventing consideration of all ads is quite different than the natural risk that a given ad could be ignored.
- jusben1369 14y agoThat's interesting. If you DVR a show do you feel obliged to sit through the commercials? This feels somewhat similar.
- dangravell 14y agoI would pay for a GMail extension that allowed me to automate or semi-automate actions upon some kind of matching... e.g. When I get an email from so-and-so... Scrape some data from email Add as a new row in Google Spreadsheet Reply with this data inserted or my own manual edits Are commercial GMail add ins permitted?
- icebraining 14y agoAre commercial GMail add ins permitted? Convert to Google Apps (there's a free plan) and you get a full marketplace: https://www.google.com/enterprise/marketplace/ https://www.google.com/enterprise/marketplace/
- xpressyoo 14y agoDear HN community, Gmelius developer here. Thanks for your comments, please keep them coming. Just to precise one point: every Gmelius feature can be enabled or disabled in the preferences of the extension.
- loudmax 14y agoI'm happy with the existing GMail UI, and the fact that people are experimenting with custom modifications is a good thing. It's disturbing though, that the first improvement touted is the removal of ads. For a free service offered by an an advertising company, the GMail ads are about as unobtrusive as they could be. And hiding the ads doesn't do anything for privacy concerns. If it's ad-free email you're after, you really should be looking to pay for the service from someplace else.
- overshard 14y agoLooks great but please don't remove the ads. I dislike ads as much as the next person but it should not be the role of this plugin to remove them, if you really don't want ads people can find another way to do that but it seems wrong to bundle it in with this.
- xpressyoo 14y agoHey, as already emphasized, all the features can be enabled/disabled in the extension's preferences. You're of course perfectly free to not remove the ads.
- overshard 14y agoAnd I understand this, it doesn't make it any less distasteful...
- Drbble 14y agoGmail ads are PPC (right?). If you never C, there is no harm in blocking. If Gmail delivered valuable ads, I wouldn't want to adblock. I use Gmail and promote it and I adblock. People with money to spend on overpriced coffee use Gmail with my encouragement and click ads. Everyone wins.
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- mindprince 14y agoGmail should borrow two features from this - Attachment Icons and Auto-Scroll to top of inbox.
- ominous 14y agoI like the part about the same font across emails, so I tried to mirror that :P Found this http://blog.affirmix.com/2012/01/20/change-the-font-size-of-messages-in-gmail-with-google-chrome/ http://blog.affirmix.com/2012/01/20/change-the-font-size-of-... for Linux, default path is ~/.config/chromium/Default/User\ StyleSheets/Custom.css (Chromium) or ~/.config/google-chrome/Default/User\ StyleSheets/Custom.css (Chrome) I don't know css, but it seems adding color:#<color_in_hex> makes all the text have that same color.
- marknutter 14y agoMy biggest gripe with Gmail is the lack of any ability to customize font sizes for different sections. I'm on an 11" Macbook Air and fonts can be unbearably small at times, but I see no way to increase the font-size of the emails I read. Even hitting cmd+ doesn't do the trick; the fonts get a little bigger but the whole layout goes pear shaped, of course. More granular control over font sizes would make this plugin a lot more valuable to me.
- xpressyoo 14y agoHi HN, thanks for your valuable comments. Please do not hesitate to keep them coming, proposing features/tweaks you would like implemented in your Gmail. Florian (Gmelius Developer)
- xpressyoo 14y agoLooks like the HN community on the Pacific coast is going to miss the official release of Gmelius (http://gmelius.com http://gmelius.com). Fair enough and thx to you all who checked it out!