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I have posted one or two outlandish things whilst enjoying a few too many drinks and I have been properly downvoted; I have never seen or heard of anyone being

by Fezzik 3y ago

I have posted one or two outlandish things whilst enjoying a few too many drinks and I have been properly downvoted; I have never seen or heard of anyone being restricted/moderated inappropriately. Any specific examples that come to mind? Edit, to add: I also say ridiculous things when sober, on occasion. I didn’t mean to imply that the only time my mighty brain falters is when I’m inebriated.

_8j50 3y ago
Likewise and I was in the wrong. I hate to beat a dead horse but look at my reply to a sibling comment in this comment thread for an example. My honest opinion: I have geopolitical views that tend to upset ideological people which includes...coughpowerfulcough folks and got stuck with reputation accordingly (whatever, no complaints). I normally avoid politics because in the US at least, I am too contrarian and "centrist", but on HN people do engage and correct me or educate me when I am incorrect. At least it used to be so, times are achanging. But tech people keep being political so it's hard to avoid. One particular thread about signal or something, I made a point about Silicon Valley tech types presuming things and interfering with politics in other countries (something about signal or other apps enabling one side of politics to win over the other I think), I think that comment was the last straw before the restrictions (can't be sure though, just guessing), this must have been in 2022. But as the saying goes "if a cop tails a car for 500 miles, that car is getting a ticket!", I am sure I have done plenty more that violate the rules, my only complaint is on how my "punishment" was in secret with no opportunity to self-correct. Maybe like reddit, HN is best lurked? I hope to see better times on HN and make dang's job easier on my part at least. happy 2024!
jorvi 3y ago
This comment got my account aggressively throttled for ~24h: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38728278#38730194 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38728278#38730194 There is definitely messed-up biased moderating on HN. That you don’t personally suffer it doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  >That you don’t personally suffer it doesn’t mean it’s not happening. just because you link to a single comment doesn't mean it was the sole cause of your throttling.
  - jorvi 3y ago
    It’s the only recent comment of mine that went fairly negative, and free internet advocates are pretty militant. It’s not rocket science to make the inference.
    - johnnyanmac 3y ago
      with all due respect, this sort of response and tone is exactly why that kind of throttling exists: >Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. >Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. I commented in response because a comment downstream from what you linked felt much more caustic and may have been a bigger suspect than the first one. But by the nature of threaded comments, you will see less participation in a deeper comment. And I'm sure HN accounts for that. (-10 on a top level comment that was the first comment on the page may not be as bad as -1 on a deep comment). If the repo is correct, these features are made to throttle comments that can cause flame wars. So, food for thought. A lot of times it's less about what you say and how you say it.
      - jorvi 3y ago
        > with all due respect, this sort of response and tone is exactly why that kind of throttling exists: > > don't cross-examine Something about a mirror. Or: do you think you deserve aggressive throttling now? Honestly, some of my comments might jive less with HN’s echo chamber, but that doesn’t mean they’re not based in fact, and it doesn’t make them inciting. Edit: I’m trying to practice taking complaints as actionable feedback, so > So, food for thought. A lot of times it's less about what you say and how you say it. Thanks for this. I’ll keep it it in mind!
stefantalpalaru 3y ago
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by Fezzik 3y ago

_8j50 3y ago

Likewise and I was in the wrong. I hate to beat a dead horse but look at my reply to a sibling comment in this comment thread for an example. My honest opinion: I have geopolitical views that tend to upset ideological people which includes...coughpowerfulcough folks and got stuck with reputation accordingly (whatever, no complaints). I normally avoid politics because in the US at least, I am too contrarian and "centrist", but on HN people do engage and correct me or educate me when I am incorrect. At least it used to be so, times are achanging. But tech people keep being political so it's hard to avoid. One particular thread about signal or something, I made a point about Silicon Valley tech types presuming things and interfering with politics in other countries (something about signal or other apps enabling one side of politics to win over the other I think), I think that comment was the last straw before the restrictions (can't be sure though, just guessing), this must have been in 2022. But as the saying goes "if a cop tails a car for 500 miles, that car is getting a ticket!", I am sure I have done plenty more that violate the rules, my only complaint is on how my "punishment" was in secret with no opportunity to self-correct. Maybe like reddit, HN is best lurked? I hope to see better times on HN and make dang's job easier on my part at least. happy 2024!

jorvi 3y ago

This comment got my account aggressively throttled for ~24h: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38728278#38730194 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38728278#38730194 There is definitely messed-up biased moderating on HN. That you don’t personally suffer it doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

johnnyanmac 3y ago
>That you don’t personally suffer it doesn’t mean it’s not happening. just because you link to a single comment doesn't mean it was the sole cause of your throttling.
- jorvi 3y ago
  It’s the only recent comment of mine that went fairly negative, and free internet advocates are pretty militant. It’s not rocket science to make the inference.
  - johnnyanmac 3y ago
    with all due respect, this sort of response and tone is exactly why that kind of throttling exists: >Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes. >Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. I commented in response because a comment downstream from what you linked felt much more caustic and may have been a bigger suspect than the first one. But by the nature of threaded comments, you will see less participation in a deeper comment. And I'm sure HN accounts for that. (-10 on a top level comment that was the first comment on the page may not be as bad as -1 on a deep comment). If the repo is correct, these features are made to throttle comments that can cause flame wars. So, food for thought. A lot of times it's less about what you say and how you say it.
    - jorvi 3y ago
      > with all due respect, this sort of response and tone is exactly why that kind of throttling exists: > > don't cross-examine Something about a mirror. Or: do you think you deserve aggressive throttling now? Honestly, some of my comments might jive less with HN’s echo chamber, but that doesn’t mean they’re not based in fact, and it doesn’t make them inciting. Edit: I’m trying to practice taking complaints as actionable feedback, so > So, food for thought. A lot of times it's less about what you say and how you say it. Thanks for this. I’ll keep it it in mind!

stefantalpalaru 3y ago

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