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An example: What did you eat for dinner? If you know the answer for sure, go back a day, or another day, etc. At some number of days you will have an idea of wh

by Cerium 3y ago

An example: What did you eat for dinner? If you know the answer for sure, go back a day, or another day, etc. At some number of days you will have an idea of what you ate but not be entirely sure. You certainly knew what you ate when you were eating it, but now?

rTX5CMRXIfFG 3y ago
If I don’t know that now but knew it then, then knowledge is still binary is it not?
- RoyalHenOil 3y ago
  You don't have perfect recollection one day and then no recollection whatsoever the next day. Memories become vague as they deteriorate. For example, you may remember something you learned in 4th grade, but you probably don't remember exactly how the teacher explained it or what questions about it were on the test.
  - master-lincoln 3y ago
    Ok, but then I don't know how I was taught that thing, even though I know the thing. Still binary
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  - rTX5CMRXIfFG 3y ago
    You don't have knowledge if you don't have perfect recollection. Put in other words, if you cannot fully remember something, then you do not know it. We need to come terms with that and honestly I might be striking a nerve here because I'm triggering people's Dunning-Kruger. The state of knowing at any point in time is binary, which means that it is possible to un-know something that you used to know.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  I think we're being overly nitpicky about "knowledge" and "memory". Memory is not binary (with current knowleddge on the topic). I can recall exactly what I had for dinner tonight. I can't precisely recall what I had last week but I have blurry ideas of what, which can be kickstarted by other sources (even if the actual source is wrong, saying "I had seafood last week" can prompt me to realize I went to a seafood restaurant and ordered a burger), or recalled if it was logged somewhere. However, I can read a log from over a year ago on some dinner and it can still feel unfamliar. Are these 2 states really the same level of "memory" (or lack, thereof)? >if you cannot fully remember something, then you do not know it. I guess most people don't "know" how to program then, with them constantly relying on pesky documentation every-time they type a function in an IDE. People can judge how they want. I'm glad my job doesn't care if I know off the cruft if it's "X.length" or "X.size()" or "len(X)" in Language Y as long as I take a second to google whichever language and library I'm using.

by Cerium 3y ago

rTX5CMRXIfFG 3y ago

If I don’t know that now but knew it then, then knowledge is still binary is it not?

RoyalHenOil 3y ago
You don't have perfect recollection one day and then no recollection whatsoever the next day. Memories become vague as they deteriorate. For example, you may remember something you learned in 4th grade, but you probably don't remember exactly how the teacher explained it or what questions about it were on the test.
- master-lincoln 3y ago
  Ok, but then I don't know how I was taught that thing, even though I know the thing. Still binary
- deleted 3y ago
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- rTX5CMRXIfFG 3y ago
  You don't have knowledge if you don't have perfect recollection. Put in other words, if you cannot fully remember something, then you do not know it. We need to come terms with that and honestly I might be striking a nerve here because I'm triggering people's Dunning-Kruger. The state of knowing at any point in time is binary, which means that it is possible to un-know something that you used to know.
johnnyanmac 3y ago
I think we're being overly nitpicky about "knowledge" and "memory". Memory is not binary (with current knowleddge on the topic). I can recall exactly what I had for dinner tonight. I can't precisely recall what I had last week but I have blurry ideas of what, which can be kickstarted by other sources (even if the actual source is wrong, saying "I had seafood last week" can prompt me to realize I went to a seafood restaurant and ordered a burger), or recalled if it was logged somewhere. However, I can read a log from over a year ago on some dinner and it can still feel unfamliar. Are these 2 states really the same level of "memory" (or lack, thereof)? >if you cannot fully remember something, then you do not know it. I guess most people don't "know" how to program then, with them constantly relying on pesky documentation every-time they type a function in an IDE. People can judge how they want. I'm glad my job doesn't care if I know off the cruft if it's "X.length" or "X.size()" or "len(X)" in Language Y as long as I take a second to google whichever language and library I'm using.