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>These are all issues that can be overcome with an absurd amount of effort [...] >I find "pre-existing wealth and opportunities" a much lazier answer How is
by thfuran 3y ago
>These are all issues that can be overcome with an absurd amount of effort
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>I find "pre-existing wealth and opportunities" a much lazier answer
How is this consistent? It seems self-evident that if one person faces issues that the other didn't and those issues require "an absurd amount of effort" to overcome, the first person was at a significant disadvantage.
- sokoloff 3y agoThere’s little doubt that becoming an adult with little educational preparation and scarce financial resources is very much harder than being well-equipped with both. I don’t think GP is disagreeing with that, but rather with the premise that poor people in 2027 are poor because there was nothing they could do in 2024, but rather that with an amount of devoted and concerted effort, some can lift themselves out in 2027 well above where they entered 2024. You’re making a “b” argument. GP is making an “m” argument, while acknowledging the effect of “b”.
- thfuran 3y ago>but rather with the premise that poor people in 2027 are poor because there was nothing they could do in 2024 That is an argument that no one in this thread has made. Poverty is obviously not inescapable.
- wolverine876 3y ago> Poverty is obviously not inescapable. It may depend on what you mean. It's not inescapable to some - they escape it. It maybe inescapable to others; most don't escape it.
- thfuran 3y agoThat I didn't win the lottery last time I bought a ticket doesn't mean I couldn't have.
- wolverine876 3y agoIt doesn't mean you could. Also, if your chance of something is 1 in a billion, does that meet any meaningful definition of 'possible'?