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It's dystopian in the worst way that an unrelated Google issue can get your entire youtube collection knocked offline permanently. Even if you were abusing gmai

It's dystopian in the worst way that an unrelated Google issue can get your entire youtube collection knocked offline permanently. Even if you were abusing gmail, it's still remarkable that it could lead to a youtube account closure. Does any other company pull this? E.g. would Amazon close your AWS account because you were spamming the book marketplace with some fraudulent orders? Or worse, vice-versa -- your seller account got locked because your AWS account was associated with some spammy behavior.

tavavex 3y ago
I'm not entirely sure, but I think Microsoft can also do something like this, but in most cases both Google and MS will only ban the account on one service. While it's rare, it's very unnerving to think that one day, with no "due process" or recourse, Google can wipe everything you ever touched on their platforms - from everything on Gmail, to all your content on YouTube, your purchases and subscriptions on Google Play, whatever you store on Drive or Photos, your contacts, calendar, notes - everything.
- jiggawatts 3y ago
  What do you mean “one day”? They do this type of thing now.
  - tavavex 3y ago
    I mean that "one day", that kind of thing could happen to you in particular. I know they've already been doing it to others.
nucleardog 3y ago
> E.g. would Amazon close your AWS account because you were spamming the book marketplace with some fraudulent orders? As far as I know, yes. Though I’m not sure that it’s intentional so much as just emergent behaviour from a complex system or what recourse there may be. I’ve hear anecdotes of people getting their Amazon account shut down for too many returns or similar issues and losing access to their AWS account. I’ve generally seen it recommended that you have a separate Amazon account for your purchases and AWS usage for this and other reasons.

tavavex 3y ago

I'm not entirely sure, but I think Microsoft can also do something like this, but in most cases both Google and MS will only ban the account on one service. While it's rare, it's very unnerving to think that one day, with no "due process" or recourse, Google can wipe everything you ever touched on their platforms - from everything on Gmail, to all your content on YouTube, your purchases and subscriptions on Google Play, whatever you store on Drive or Photos, your contacts, calendar, notes - everything.

jiggawatts 3y ago
What do you mean “one day”? They do this type of thing now.
- tavavex 3y ago
  I mean that "one day", that kind of thing could happen to you in particular. I know they've already been doing it to others.

nucleardog 3y ago

> E.g. would Amazon close your AWS account because you were spamming the book marketplace with some fraudulent orders? As far as I know, yes. Though I’m not sure that it’s intentional so much as just emergent behaviour from a complex system or what recourse there may be. I’ve hear anecdotes of people getting their Amazon account shut down for too many returns or similar issues and losing access to their AWS account. I’ve generally seen it recommended that you have a separate Amazon account for your purchases and AWS usage for this and other reasons.