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When did Hacker News start applying topcolor to the YC logo? I just noticed it today but am curious if it’s been there for awhile.

dang 3y ago
I did it a couple days ago because a user had been emailing since 2016 that the orange Y doesn't look good when the bar is changed to Christmas red. Btw, that's not the record for how long a bug fix has taken. We get there eventually.
- JorgeGT 3y ago
  This update broke my workflow!
  - dang 3y ago
    I did warn him that people might complain about side effects Edit: believe it or not, we got more complaints about this. Some people picked their top color specifically to go nicely with the orange Y! So I've reverted this change, except for the Christmas case. Users who have set their topcolor don't see the Christmas top bar anyhow, so don't have to worry.
    - slymax 3y ago
      is it possible that NetNewsWire (possibly other rss readers as well) don't show the favicon for https://news.ycombinator.com/rss https://news.ycombinator.com/rss anymore because of this change? I noticed this a few days ago
      - dang 3y ago
        HN is still serving the orange Y for favicons. Only the Y to the left of "Hacker News" in the top bar now has a transparent background. However, there was a brief period where we were serving the transparent Y for favicons before I noticed that and corrected it; I wonder if the transparent Y somehow got into a cache? Is there a way to force-refresh?
        slymax 3y ago
        Unfortunately the issue still persists and it doesn't seem to be related to caching. I think the problem might be that NetNewsWire doesn't support SVG favicons (/y18.svg) and that /favicon.ico isn't available as a fallback. Were there any changes regarding these files recently?
        dang 3y ago
        There were! That would likely be the issue then. What do I need to do to make /favicon.ico available as a fallback?
        slymax 3y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/favicon.ico https://news.ycombinator.com/favicon.ico would need to return the favicon instead of 404 Not Found
        dang 3y ago
        I've put it back. Does it work now?
        slymax 3y ago
        Yes, it's working again. Thank you!
  - cantSpellSober 3y ago
    I use [bgcolor='#ff6600'] as a CSS selector for the <td> wrapping the header to remove the header bar color. So this really did break my workflow, hah
    - divbzero 3y ago
      That’s pretty amusing. Does switching the CSS selector to td[bgcolor] do the trick?
- rob 3y ago
  Don’t make me start emailing you every day to update the default font size from 12px to a modern default like 16px. This isn’t 2007 when everybody had 1024x768 monitors. I had to dust my monocle out of storage before adjusting my browser zoom level.

dang 3y ago

I did it a couple days ago because a user had been emailing since 2016 that the orange Y doesn't look good when the bar is changed to Christmas red. Btw, that's not the record for how long a bug fix has taken. We get there eventually.

JorgeGT 3y ago
This update broke my workflow!
- dang 3y ago
  I did warn him that people might complain about side effects Edit: believe it or not, we got more complaints about this. Some people picked their top color specifically to go nicely with the orange Y! So I've reverted this change, except for the Christmas case. Users who have set their topcolor don't see the Christmas top bar anyhow, so don't have to worry.
  - slymax 3y ago
    is it possible that NetNewsWire (possibly other rss readers as well) don't show the favicon for https://news.ycombinator.com/rss https://news.ycombinator.com/rss anymore because of this change? I noticed this a few days ago
    - dang 3y ago
      HN is still serving the orange Y for favicons. Only the Y to the left of "Hacker News" in the top bar now has a transparent background. However, there was a brief period where we were serving the transparent Y for favicons before I noticed that and corrected it; I wonder if the transparent Y somehow got into a cache? Is there a way to force-refresh?
      - slymax 3y ago
        Unfortunately the issue still persists and it doesn't seem to be related to caching. I think the problem might be that NetNewsWire doesn't support SVG favicons (/y18.svg) and that /favicon.ico isn't available as a fallback. Were there any changes regarding these files recently?
        dang 3y ago
        There were! That would likely be the issue then. What do I need to do to make /favicon.ico available as a fallback?
        slymax 3y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/favicon.ico https://news.ycombinator.com/favicon.ico would need to return the favicon instead of 404 Not Found
        dang 3y ago
        I've put it back. Does it work now?
        slymax 3y ago
        Yes, it's working again. Thank you!
- cantSpellSober 3y ago
  I use [bgcolor='#ff6600'] as a CSS selector for the <td> wrapping the header to remove the header bar color. So this really did break my workflow, hah
  - divbzero 3y ago
    That’s pretty amusing. Does switching the CSS selector to td[bgcolor] do the trick?
rob 3y ago
Don’t make me start emailing you every day to update the default font size from 12px to a modern default like 16px. This isn’t 2007 when everybody had 1024x768 monitors. I had to dust my monocle out of storage before adjusting my browser zoom level.