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> How come there isn’t a predator collar that releases pepper spray when wolves go in for the throat kill? The wolf collar was invented for this and dates back

> How come there isn’t a predator collar that releases pepper spray when wolves go in for the throat kill? The wolf collar was invented for this and dates back to Ancient Greece: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_collar https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_collar Typically it was/is fitted to guard dogs who would then fight the wolves.

happytiger 3y ago
Wow. That’s a history I didn’t know about. Thank you. Edit: I wonder if it would be more cost effective to put collars on the few hundred wolves we are talking about and near some kind of near field rfid style trigger on protected species. We could just trigger them on USDA tags maybe? Anyone tried this? Wolf collars imply throat kills which is my understanding of how wolves kill and we already use 15 digit USDA approved ear tags on most animals. I mean this is a social conditioning program so it could make sense as you wouldn’t have to keep it up forever or completely just enough to change pack behaviors perhaps. It’s the same model skunks use and they’re fairly effective at deterring predators. You could also cost effectively rfid chip the wolves one time and put lower cost proximity deterrence on prey animals inside the range. This isn’t expensive stuff to implement and many of these animals are already being tagged or monitored by programs. A blacklist for wolve rfid seems very doable. We could figure out problem wolves that actually need to be removed if we had active data instead of blanket population thinning. That’d probably go a long way towards increasing popular support for ranchers too. Found a study that shows double digit reduction of predation levels with just a hard collar: https://www.conservationevidence.com/actions/2448 https://www.conservationevidence.com/actions/2448 Also found a government program already doing this for coyote: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-A101-PURL-LPS99809/pdf/GOVPUB-A101-PURL-LPS99809.pdf https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-A101-PURL-LPS9980... So it seems like adding reactivity to this idea could really work. And here’s another farmer having great success: https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/animals/sheep-and-goats/karoo-sheep-farmer-outwits-predators-with-his-nail-collar/ https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/animals/sheep-and-goats/karo... Why I aren’t we having a larger conversation here around this wolf reintroduction?
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happytiger 3y ago

Wow. That’s a history I didn’t know about. Thank you. Edit: I wonder if it would be more cost effective to put collars on the few hundred wolves we are talking about and near some kind of near field rfid style trigger on protected species. We could just trigger them on USDA tags maybe? Anyone tried this? Wolf collars imply throat kills which is my understanding of how wolves kill and we already use 15 digit USDA approved ear tags on most animals. I mean this is a social conditioning program so it could make sense as you wouldn’t have to keep it up forever or completely just enough to change pack behaviors perhaps. It’s the same model skunks use and they’re fairly effective at deterring predators. You could also cost effectively rfid chip the wolves one time and put lower cost proximity deterrence on prey animals inside the range. This isn’t expensive stuff to implement and many of these animals are already being tagged or monitored by programs. A blacklist for wolve rfid seems very doable. We could figure out problem wolves that actually need to be removed if we had active data instead of blanket population thinning. That’d probably go a long way towards increasing popular support for ranchers too. Found a study that shows double digit reduction of predation levels with just a hard collar: https://www.conservationevidence.com/actions/2448 https://www.conservationevidence.com/actions/2448 Also found a government program already doing this for coyote: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-A101-PURL-LPS99809/pdf/GOVPUB-A101-PURL-LPS99809.pdf https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-A101-PURL-LPS9980... So it seems like adding reactivity to this idea could really work. And here’s another farmer having great success: https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/animals/sheep-and-goats/karoo-sheep-farmer-outwits-predators-with-his-nail-collar/ https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/animals/sheep-and-goats/karo... Why I aren’t we having a larger conversation here around this wolf reintroduction?

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