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There is no NHTSA standard I'm aware of that requires a vehicle to become inoperable if the backup camera loses functionality. There are no states I'm aware of

There is no NHTSA standard I'm aware of that requires a vehicle to become inoperable if the backup camera loses functionality. There are no states I'm aware of that require a vehicle to become inoperable if the backup camera loses functionality. Please provide the C.F.R. link or state statute link you're talking about.

AlotOfReading 3y ago
You're missing how FMVSS works. They're all mandatory unless they're one of the listed exemptions to the make inoperative prohibition (part 595) or otherwise stated. States regulate that generally by some variation of "operating an unsafe vehicle" rules, e.g. VC 24002 in CA. Those rules deliberately take a wide view of what unsafe means, but broadly include things that would prevent passing inspections like failing to meet FMVSS. Note that I'm not talking about the actual chance of getting dinged for operating a vehicle this way, because we all know there's effectively no real enforcement here.
- torstenvl 3y ago
  Cali. Veh. Code 24002 does not require a vehicle to become inoperable if the backup camera fails. It does not reference backup cameras at all in the text, and there is no case law to support that interpretation. You have been given plenty of opportunities to make your case and have refused to do so. I think it's pretty clear by now that you're just being disingenuous.
  - AlotOfReading 3y ago
    Please enlighten me. What are the vehicle codes that specify which component failures render a vehicle unfit for operation? Let's say something obvious like brakes or lights.
    - torstenvl 3y ago
      New York: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/VAT/T3A9 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/VAT/T3A9 California: https://casetext.com/statute/california-codes/california-vehicle-code/division-12-equipment-of-vehicles https://casetext.com/statute/california-codes/california-veh... Illinois: Chapter 12 at https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1815&ChapterID=49 https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1815&C... Michigan: https://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-300-1949-VI-EQUIPMENT.pdf https://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-300-194... Your turn.

AlotOfReading 3y ago

You're missing how FMVSS works. They're all mandatory unless they're one of the listed exemptions to the make inoperative prohibition (part 595) or otherwise stated. States regulate that generally by some variation of "operating an unsafe vehicle" rules, e.g. VC 24002 in CA. Those rules deliberately take a wide view of what unsafe means, but broadly include things that would prevent passing inspections like failing to meet FMVSS. Note that I'm not talking about the actual chance of getting dinged for operating a vehicle this way, because we all know there's effectively no real enforcement here.

torstenvl 3y ago
Cali. Veh. Code 24002 does not require a vehicle to become inoperable if the backup camera fails. It does not reference backup cameras at all in the text, and there is no case law to support that interpretation. You have been given plenty of opportunities to make your case and have refused to do so. I think it's pretty clear by now that you're just being disingenuous.
- AlotOfReading 3y ago
  Please enlighten me. What are the vehicle codes that specify which component failures render a vehicle unfit for operation? Let's say something obvious like brakes or lights.
  - torstenvl 3y ago
    New York: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/VAT/T3A9 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/VAT/T3A9 California: https://casetext.com/statute/california-codes/california-vehicle-code/division-12-equipment-of-vehicles https://casetext.com/statute/california-codes/california-veh... Illinois: Chapter 12 at https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1815&ChapterID=49 https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1815&C... Michigan: https://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-300-1949-VI-EQUIPMENT.pdf https://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-300-194... Your turn.