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Agreed. It's frustrating because both Obsidian and Logseq have deliberately removed a crucial feature. So people either have to pay a lot, or do janky workaroun

by awill 3y ago

Agreed. It's frustrating because both Obsidian and Logseq have deliberately removed a crucial feature. So people either have to pay a lot, or do janky workarounds to do their own sync. Why have so many people waste their time with own custom solution.

PurpleRamen 3y ago
They have developers to feed, and sync is a fair choice for paywalling a feature.
- brunoqc 3y ago
  I guess, but without a good native sync, there's no way that less tech-savvy people will use it. Personally, I wouldn't mind paying a small fee for a great note-taking app, but I would like to be able to share some notes with my mom and with my partner. But they wouldn't want to pay for it, as they wouldn't use the app as much.
  - unixhero 3y ago
    I would mind. This subscription based reality has got to end. I'm drawing a line in the sand.
- awill 3y ago
  Of course. But they should make their money in other ways. A note taking app that I can't sync across multiple devices is useless. And you can't try the full version with sync to see if it would work. All I'm saying is they're leaving a lot of money on the table. I hear syncthing is good for this, but obviously it's messier on iOS. I just know that $8/mo for sync is too much. You can get Office 365, or Google Drive/Dropbox with a TON of space for that price, and that space is usable by lots of different things.
  - D13Fd 3y ago
    The $8/month seems completely fair IMO. really good sync is hard to pull off. I ran my own hodgepodge sync service for over a decade out of a home server for exactly these kinds of notes, and it’s really easy for issues/conflicts/general jankiness to crop up. Plus you constantly run into issues with compatibility between the sync app(s) and the Mac/PC/iOS apps you use to edit the files. Nothing prevents me from running that exact same setup for Obsidian for free. But I’d much rather pay $8/month and not have to deal with server backups and maintenance, compatibility, or all of the other issues.
fh973 3y ago
Syncthing has been working smoothly for my Obsidian directory.

by awill 3y ago

PurpleRamen 3y ago

They have developers to feed, and sync is a fair choice for paywalling a feature.

brunoqc 3y ago
I guess, but without a good native sync, there's no way that less tech-savvy people will use it. Personally, I wouldn't mind paying a small fee for a great note-taking app, but I would like to be able to share some notes with my mom and with my partner. But they wouldn't want to pay for it, as they wouldn't use the app as much.
- unixhero 3y ago
  I would mind. This subscription based reality has got to end. I'm drawing a line in the sand.
awill 3y ago
Of course. But they should make their money in other ways. A note taking app that I can't sync across multiple devices is useless. And you can't try the full version with sync to see if it would work. All I'm saying is they're leaving a lot of money on the table. I hear syncthing is good for this, but obviously it's messier on iOS. I just know that $8/mo for sync is too much. You can get Office 365, or Google Drive/Dropbox with a TON of space for that price, and that space is usable by lots of different things.
- D13Fd 3y ago
  The $8/month seems completely fair IMO. really good sync is hard to pull off. I ran my own hodgepodge sync service for over a decade out of a home server for exactly these kinds of notes, and it’s really easy for issues/conflicts/general jankiness to crop up. Plus you constantly run into issues with compatibility between the sync app(s) and the Mac/PC/iOS apps you use to edit the files. Nothing prevents me from running that exact same setup for Obsidian for free. But I’d much rather pay $8/month and not have to deal with server backups and maintenance, compatibility, or all of the other issues.

fh973 3y ago

Syncthing has been working smoothly for my Obsidian directory.