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Thanks! Would you by any chance know of a light weight note taking app?

by subtra3t 3y ago

Scarbutt 3y ago
Emacs org-mode.
- peatmoss 3y ago
  Lightweight in terms of system resources, yes. Lightweight in terms of "I have a whole new lifestyle and religion"... no. Org-mode can be used simply, but the kind of person drawn to org-mode (e.g. me) has a hard time not yak shaving org-mode in the extreme. :-)
rubymamis 3y ago
Shameless plug: my note-taking app[1] is built using Qt C++ and QML. I’m also working on a new note taking app with a revamped block editor[2]. [1] https://www.get-notes.com/ https://www.get-notes.com/ [2] https://www.get-plume.com/ https://www.get-plume.com/
- subtra3t 3y ago
  A few days back I'd signed up for Plume's waiting list. However, I wasn't aware that you were also the creator of an existing app. I have a few questions for you. I apologize if some (all?) of them are too aggressive. What were your reasons for creating a new project rather than focussing on the existing project? Technical debt? What will be the pricing of the new app? Will it be open-source? Lastly, will Notes be maintained by you to a lesser degree upon the release of Plume? Will you let the community take over? Will nothing change?
  - rubymamis 3y ago
    These are all great questions. 1. Notes is completely open-source[1]. There are some awesome maintainers who help me fix and update things and sometimes even implement new features. When Plume will be released, of course, I'll put much less time into Notes (as already the case). But since Notes is licensed under MPL and Plume is built on top of it, all files used from Notes will be open source as well, so any improvement from Plume could be potentially incorporated into Notes. 2. The reason for creating Plume is that I always wanted[2] to create an advanced editor (a la Notion) but only recently realized how to be able to do it using C++ (handling the model) and QML (handling the view). I had to implement many things from scratch (undo/redo/copy/paste/multi-block-editing/etc). 3. I recently discussed my reasoning to go close-source[3]. I've been working night and day (every day) converting 4 cups of coffee into code for the last 4 months to create Plume. I don't want to risk not being rewarded sufficiently for it. But, I'm 99% sure that I'll either open source the core block editor or the entire app in the future. [1] https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes [2] https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes/issues/317 https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes/issues/317 [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38584960 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38584960
    - subtra3t 3y ago
      Thank you!
malnourish 3y ago
Vim, emacs Org mode (if you consider emacs "light weight"), Joplin (from what I recall, it's been a long time), sublime text/vs code.
- subtra3t 3y ago
  If I wished to learn vim for note taking rather than programming, what learning resources would I most benefit from? I am a complete beginner to vim.
  - trws 3y ago
    That’s a good question. The built in tutorial is actually really good, you can launch it with “vimtutor” on the command line. It doesn’t give you everything, but its instructions and text to try things out on in the editor itself, which I find a good way to learn. It isn’t particularly programming focused either. For getting used to the motions especially https://vim-adventures.com https://vim-adventures.com can be a fun way, in its game format. For getting started I’d say don’t worry about plugins much, but get https://github.com/tpope/vim-sensible https://github.com/tpope/vim-sensible at least so the defaults meant for vi don’t get in the way. The only other thing you might want is a format syntax if your preferred note syntax isn’t highlighted well by default or something. Polyglot can be good to stave that off but really I’d say learn on a really lean config, and get used to using :help or similar. It’s the best way to learn the parts that work everywhere.
    - subtra3t 3y ago
      Regarding the game vim adventures; is the free version good enough on its own? $25 for half a year is too much for me to shell out for a vim course...
      - trws 3y ago
        I forgot they even had a paid version, sorry about that. The benefit IMO is really just playing the first few bits a few times to help get the visual/muscle memory of moving around with vim motion keys. Not just HJKL but beginning/end, Find and Till, I assume the paid part comes after that but it’s been a while since I’ve used it. Honestly I’d do the vimtutor, maybe try the free version of this, and just use it for a bit. Use the arrow keys, use the mouse (:set mouse=a turns it on just in case) but see how you like being able to use the <count><action><range> syntax to do things. That’s the real win in my opinion, things like reflow this paragraph gqip (reflow is gq, range for a paragraph is “ip” or In Paragraph), delete this sentence including surrounding spaces and period das (literally Delete Around Sentence), and with movements gU} changes the rest of the current paragraph to uppercase. There are many lists of these things, but I learned it by treating it as notepad with some odd bindings for save and quit for a bit in college then whenever something was annoying looking up how to do it or how to build it. I’ve now been using vim as my main editor for notes, prose with latex or markdown, and programming for 20 years, and literally given courses on it for graduate students. That is to say, you don’t need to learn it all ip front to use it. Learn how to open it, get in insert mode, write and quit and jump in; hopefully it will fit you like it did for me.
unixhero 3y ago
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Thanks! Would you by any chance know of a light weight note taking app?

Scarbutt 3y ago

Emacs org-mode.

peatmoss 3y ago
Lightweight in terms of system resources, yes. Lightweight in terms of "I have a whole new lifestyle and religion"... no. Org-mode can be used simply, but the kind of person drawn to org-mode (e.g. me) has a hard time not yak shaving org-mode in the extreme. :-)

rubymamis 3y ago

Shameless plug: my note-taking app[1] is built using Qt C++ and QML. I’m also working on a new note taking app with a revamped block editor[2]. [1] https://www.get-notes.com/ https://www.get-notes.com/ [2] https://www.get-plume.com/ https://www.get-plume.com/

subtra3t 3y ago
A few days back I'd signed up for Plume's waiting list. However, I wasn't aware that you were also the creator of an existing app. I have a few questions for you. I apologize if some (all?) of them are too aggressive. What were your reasons for creating a new project rather than focussing on the existing project? Technical debt? What will be the pricing of the new app? Will it be open-source? Lastly, will Notes be maintained by you to a lesser degree upon the release of Plume? Will you let the community take over? Will nothing change?
- rubymamis 3y ago
  These are all great questions. 1. Notes is completely open-source[1]. There are some awesome maintainers who help me fix and update things and sometimes even implement new features. When Plume will be released, of course, I'll put much less time into Notes (as already the case). But since Notes is licensed under MPL and Plume is built on top of it, all files used from Notes will be open source as well, so any improvement from Plume could be potentially incorporated into Notes. 2. The reason for creating Plume is that I always wanted[2] to create an advanced editor (a la Notion) but only recently realized how to be able to do it using C++ (handling the model) and QML (handling the view). I had to implement many things from scratch (undo/redo/copy/paste/multi-block-editing/etc). 3. I recently discussed my reasoning to go close-source[3]. I've been working night and day (every day) converting 4 cups of coffee into code for the last 4 months to create Plume. I don't want to risk not being rewarded sufficiently for it. But, I'm 99% sure that I'll either open source the core block editor or the entire app in the future. [1] https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes [2] https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes/issues/317 https://github.com/nuttyartist/notes/issues/317 [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38584960 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38584960
  - subtra3t 3y ago
    Thank you!

malnourish 3y ago

Vim, emacs Org mode (if you consider emacs "light weight"), Joplin (from what I recall, it's been a long time), sublime text/vs code.

subtra3t 3y ago
If I wished to learn vim for note taking rather than programming, what learning resources would I most benefit from? I am a complete beginner to vim.
- trws 3y ago
  That’s a good question. The built in tutorial is actually really good, you can launch it with “vimtutor” on the command line. It doesn’t give you everything, but its instructions and text to try things out on in the editor itself, which I find a good way to learn. It isn’t particularly programming focused either. For getting used to the motions especially https://vim-adventures.com https://vim-adventures.com can be a fun way, in its game format. For getting started I’d say don’t worry about plugins much, but get https://github.com/tpope/vim-sensible https://github.com/tpope/vim-sensible at least so the defaults meant for vi don’t get in the way. The only other thing you might want is a format syntax if your preferred note syntax isn’t highlighted well by default or something. Polyglot can be good to stave that off but really I’d say learn on a really lean config, and get used to using :help or similar. It’s the best way to learn the parts that work everywhere.
  - subtra3t 3y ago
    Regarding the game vim adventures; is the free version good enough on its own? $25 for half a year is too much for me to shell out for a vim course...
    - trws 3y ago
      I forgot they even had a paid version, sorry about that. The benefit IMO is really just playing the first few bits a few times to help get the visual/muscle memory of moving around with vim motion keys. Not just HJKL but beginning/end, Find and Till, I assume the paid part comes after that but it’s been a while since I’ve used it. Honestly I’d do the vimtutor, maybe try the free version of this, and just use it for a bit. Use the arrow keys, use the mouse (:set mouse=a turns it on just in case) but see how you like being able to use the <count><action><range> syntax to do things. That’s the real win in my opinion, things like reflow this paragraph gqip (reflow is gq, range for a paragraph is “ip” or In Paragraph), delete this sentence including surrounding spaces and period das (literally Delete Around Sentence), and with movements gU} changes the rest of the current paragraph to uppercase. There are many lists of these things, but I learned it by treating it as notepad with some odd bindings for save and quit for a bit in college then whenever something was annoying looking up how to do it or how to build it. I’ve now been using vim as my main editor for notes, prose with latex or markdown, and programming for 20 years, and literally given courses on it for graduate students. That is to say, you don’t need to learn it all ip front to use it. Learn how to open it, get in insert mode, write and quit and jump in; hopefully it will fit you like it did for me.

unixhero 3y ago

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