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They also don't want to be associated with the finance bros: Patagonia has said it will no longer market merchandise to financial firms through its corporate s

They also don't want to be associated with the finance bros: Patagonia has said it will no longer market merchandise to financial firms through its corporate sales program -- a potential threat to the popular menswear look dubbed the "Midtown uniform" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/midtown-uniform-patagonia-will-no-longer-sell-vests-with-finance-firms-logos-on-them/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/midtown-uniform-patagonia-will-...

TacticalCoder 3y ago
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- vkou 3y ago
  Depending on how you do accounting, employing an American with their carbon footprint is probably more environmentally damaging than employing someone from Vietnam and shipping the product across the Pacific...
  - some_random 3y ago
    Yeah you can manipulate the accounting to get whatever conclusion you want, this is true for pretty much everything complicated.
    - schiffern 3y ago
      That's not an example of "manipulating the accounting" though, it's just an unavoidable consequence of manufacturing in high cost-of-living and carbon-per-capita locations.
      - some_random 3y ago
        Do you believe workers who aren't hired in a high carbon-per-capita location just die? Or do they just fade into nothingness as you stop thinking of them?
- infecto 3y ago
  Why would it matter where they are being made? So long as those companies are good partners that align with Patagonia. Many reasons not to be manufacturing in America and at the end of the day Patagonia afaik does not own much of any manufacturing themselves, it all happens through partners.
- mthoms 3y ago
  Every time this comes up, I’m always amazed at how cynical some people can be towards Patagonia. It’s weird to me. It’s like the one person in your friend group who actively discourages others from improving their own lives because they are unhappy in their own. I mean “Weasels”? Really? Come on. Say something insightful/interesting or don’t say anything at all. Calling them names is low effort and childish.
- dilyevsky 3y ago
  You're being downvoted but i find their message really weird. Their technical gear sucks and have been crap for a long time now (not just my opinion). They charge arcteryx prices for north face quality. And even if they were positioning themselves as a brand for climbers and hardcore skiers those aren't exactly the environment-friendly crowd (even if they think of themselves that way) and thousands spent on heliski trips are receipts for that. Now that leaves basically college kids and yuppies sporting their $500 700-down jackets on bay area hiking trails, half of which they are now alienating with their anti-yuppie stance. I'm having a hard time figuring out who this brand is really for?
  - mthoms 3y ago
    I’d disagree about your assessment of Patagonia quality and point out that most industry players where I live (Coast Mountains BC) don’t agree either. At least that’s been my experience working in the outdoor industry for two decades. This is Arc’teryx country for sure but Patagonia is very highly regarded and is known to have quite low return/warranty rates. You’re entitled to your opinion of course but don’t present it as anything other than that.
SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
Instead continuing to market to a particular brand of Northwestern hipster. My friend in Portland refers to the brand as “Patagucci” which I find to be rather amusing and accurate
- alephnerd 3y ago
  Ngl, the Patagucci corporate swag boom has been great. I could get some solid hiking gear for pennies at Goodwill or corporate events.
- mthoms 3y ago
  Their prices are high relative to other outdoor brands (hence “Patagucci”) but the quality is absolutely top notch when compared with their peers. Every product comes with a lifetime warranty as well. People are no doubt paying a premium to support the companies various environmental causes as well.
bluedino 3y ago
Why single out finance? Matching fleece jacket crews with the bro vibe could be from any company.

TacticalCoder 3y ago

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vkou 3y ago
Depending on how you do accounting, employing an American with their carbon footprint is probably more environmentally damaging than employing someone from Vietnam and shipping the product across the Pacific...
- some_random 3y ago
  Yeah you can manipulate the accounting to get whatever conclusion you want, this is true for pretty much everything complicated.
  - schiffern 3y ago
    That's not an example of "manipulating the accounting" though, it's just an unavoidable consequence of manufacturing in high cost-of-living and carbon-per-capita locations.
    - some_random 3y ago
      Do you believe workers who aren't hired in a high carbon-per-capita location just die? Or do they just fade into nothingness as you stop thinking of them?
infecto 3y ago
Why would it matter where they are being made? So long as those companies are good partners that align with Patagonia. Many reasons not to be manufacturing in America and at the end of the day Patagonia afaik does not own much of any manufacturing themselves, it all happens through partners.
mthoms 3y ago
Every time this comes up, I’m always amazed at how cynical some people can be towards Patagonia. It’s weird to me. It’s like the one person in your friend group who actively discourages others from improving their own lives because they are unhappy in their own. I mean “Weasels”? Really? Come on. Say something insightful/interesting or don’t say anything at all. Calling them names is low effort and childish.
dilyevsky 3y ago
You're being downvoted but i find their message really weird. Their technical gear sucks and have been crap for a long time now (not just my opinion). They charge arcteryx prices for north face quality. And even if they were positioning themselves as a brand for climbers and hardcore skiers those aren't exactly the environment-friendly crowd (even if they think of themselves that way) and thousands spent on heliski trips are receipts for that. Now that leaves basically college kids and yuppies sporting their $500 700-down jackets on bay area hiking trails, half of which they are now alienating with their anti-yuppie stance. I'm having a hard time figuring out who this brand is really for?
- mthoms 3y ago
  I’d disagree about your assessment of Patagonia quality and point out that most industry players where I live (Coast Mountains BC) don’t agree either. At least that’s been my experience working in the outdoor industry for two decades. This is Arc’teryx country for sure but Patagonia is very highly regarded and is known to have quite low return/warranty rates. You’re entitled to your opinion of course but don’t present it as anything other than that.

SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago

Instead continuing to market to a particular brand of Northwestern hipster. My friend in Portland refers to the brand as “Patagucci” which I find to be rather amusing and accurate

alephnerd 3y ago
Ngl, the Patagucci corporate swag boom has been great. I could get some solid hiking gear for pennies at Goodwill or corporate events.
mthoms 3y ago
Their prices are high relative to other outdoor brands (hence “Patagucci”) but the quality is absolutely top notch when compared with their peers. Every product comes with a lifetime warranty as well. People are no doubt paying a premium to support the companies various environmental causes as well.

bluedino 3y ago

Why single out finance? Matching fleece jacket crews with the bro vibe could be from any company.