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Another Obsidian alternative which I use every day is Anytype[1]. It's fully open source however under their own license which has some interesting terms to dis

Another Obsidian alternative which I use every day is Anytype[1]. It's fully open source however under their own license which has some interesting terms to discourage commercial adoption. They seem to be very focused on individual use. The user experience is similar to Notion with some subtle differences, but overall very positive. The biggest plus for me was offline p2p sync and a really solid mobile app. [1] https://anytype.io/ https://anytype.io/

ethanbond 3y ago
I really, really want to like Anytype (longtime Obsidian user). I just cannot get through the general cludginess of it. “Similar to Notion” is exactly right, unfortunately. The attempted switch to Anytype revealed to me how important it is that Obsidian feels like opening up a terminal or simple text editor.
espdev 3y ago
> The user experience is similar to Notion Honestly, it sounds like a judgment call because Notion is truly a monstrous thing. It slows down terribly and it's just plain uncomfortable. Why does "everyone" love Notion? It's horrible, how can you even use it? Programs that do simple things should be simple and run fast. It's like a pencil that you simply use and don't think about how to use it, you don't notice it at all.
- tamimio 3y ago
  >everyone loves notion I don’t, I actually loathe it.
- PurpleRamen 3y ago
  > It slows down terribly and it's just plain uncomfortable. When was the last time you use it, and what's in your workspace? Notion did receive some improvements on performance over the years, but it still depends strong on which data you dump into your workspace. > Why does "everyone" love Notion? Because it's an awesome concept with a well-rounded implementation on the user side. It just sucks hard on the technical side. I mean, it's a good tool, but it has an upper ceiling of what one should do with it. But this is a general problem with all those young fancy tools. Obsidian or Logseq are not different in that regard. They all are scaling poor. They are simply not meant for this. > Programs that do simple things should be simple and run fast. It's not simple, it's very far from being simple.
yencabulator 3y ago
That is not open source. > Any Association grants you (“Licensee”) a license to use, modify, and redistribute the Software, but only (a) for Non-Commercial Use, or (b) for Commercial Use in Allowed Networks. https://github.com/anyproto/anytype-ts/blob/main/LICENSE.md https://github.com/anyproto/anytype-ts/blob/main/LICENSE.md
- hresvelgr 3y ago
  That's open source, it's not free and open source.
  - yencabulator 3y ago
    https://opensource.org/osd/ https://opensource.org/osd/ > The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research. Any restrictions on commercial use make a license not open source.
    - hresvelgr 3y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software > The terminology of FOSS was created to be a neutral on these philosophical disagreements between the Free Software Foundation (FSF) and Open Source Initiative (OSI) and have a single unified term that could refer to both concepts. Conflating open source software with free software isn't precise which is why I prefer FOSS/FLOSS as a term. The conflation you put forward is a political stance, not factual.
      - yencabulator 3y ago
        You seem to be trying to redefine Open Source to mean something different than what it has meant for nearly two decades. Please don't. Open Source very much includes the principle of no discrimination against commercial use, and has done so from its beginnings.

ethanbond 3y ago

I really, really want to like Anytype (longtime Obsidian user). I just cannot get through the general cludginess of it. “Similar to Notion” is exactly right, unfortunately. The attempted switch to Anytype revealed to me how important it is that Obsidian feels like opening up a terminal or simple text editor.

espdev 3y ago

> The user experience is similar to Notion Honestly, it sounds like a judgment call because Notion is truly a monstrous thing. It slows down terribly and it's just plain uncomfortable. Why does "everyone" love Notion? It's horrible, how can you even use it? Programs that do simple things should be simple and run fast. It's like a pencil that you simply use and don't think about how to use it, you don't notice it at all.

tamimio 3y ago
>everyone loves notion I don’t, I actually loathe it.
PurpleRamen 3y ago
> It slows down terribly and it's just plain uncomfortable. When was the last time you use it, and what's in your workspace? Notion did receive some improvements on performance over the years, but it still depends strong on which data you dump into your workspace. > Why does "everyone" love Notion? Because it's an awesome concept with a well-rounded implementation on the user side. It just sucks hard on the technical side. I mean, it's a good tool, but it has an upper ceiling of what one should do with it. But this is a general problem with all those young fancy tools. Obsidian or Logseq are not different in that regard. They all are scaling poor. They are simply not meant for this. > Programs that do simple things should be simple and run fast. It's not simple, it's very far from being simple.

yencabulator 3y ago

That is not open source. > Any Association grants you (“Licensee”) a license to use, modify, and redistribute the Software, but only (a) for Non-Commercial Use, or (b) for Commercial Use in Allowed Networks. https://github.com/anyproto/anytype-ts/blob/main/LICENSE.md https://github.com/anyproto/anytype-ts/blob/main/LICENSE.md

hresvelgr 3y ago
That's open source, it's not free and open source.
- yencabulator 3y ago
  https://opensource.org/osd/ https://opensource.org/osd/ > The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research. Any restrictions on commercial use make a license not open source.
  - hresvelgr 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software > The terminology of FOSS was created to be a neutral on these philosophical disagreements between the Free Software Foundation (FSF) and Open Source Initiative (OSI) and have a single unified term that could refer to both concepts. Conflating open source software with free software isn't precise which is why I prefer FOSS/FLOSS as a term. The conflation you put forward is a political stance, not factual.
    - yencabulator 3y ago
      You seem to be trying to redefine Open Source to mean something different than what it has meant for nearly two decades. Please don't. Open Source very much includes the principle of no discrimination against commercial use, and has done so from its beginnings.