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Sounds like a lot of great, high-paying jobs to me.
by mp05 3y ago
Sounds like a lot of great, high-paying jobs to me.
- adrianN 3y agoSure, but who’s gonna pay for them?
- mpweiher 3y agoInfrastructure tends to pay for itself. Whereas with solar and wind, we ship the money to China.
- adrianN 3y agoI prefer the cheaper infrastructure that gets the job done. Nuclear is notoriously expensive.
- mpweiher 3y agoIt's actually not. "Expensive" French nuclear electricity is around half the price of "cheap" German electricity. The numbers that get passed around the anti-nuke fan-communities are usually completely bogus, for example one uses the price of the Vogtle plant in the US, pretty much the plant with the most time + cost overruns, as the "cost of nuclear". With that level of wrong, it is hard to attribute it to just incompetence and not malice. p.s.: As the biggest part of the cost of a nuclear plant currently is finance, i.e. interest payments, time delays = cost overruns.
- adrianN 3y agoNuclear energy in France is heavily subsidized with tax money.
- mpweiher 3y agoIncorrect. Nuclear energy in France is heavily used to subsidize other parts of the economy.
- adrianN 3y agoEDF had to be bought by the state because it failed to make any profits. The price of nuclear power in France is regulated, which is why EDF failed to make profits. The actual cost for EDF to produce power is secret. The financials leave zero room for new construction, barely cover maintenance and there is insufficient money for decommissioning existing plants.
- mpweiher 3y agoIncorrect. EDF was bought out by the state because the state had been siphoning off all its profits. > The price of nuclear power in France is regulated, which is why EDF failed to make profits. Exactly. Cheap nuclear electricity was used for decades to subsidize all sorts of industries and endeavors, never allowing EdF to actually profit from the cheap generating capacity.
- Symbiote 3y agoWind power equipment is mostly made in Europe (Denmark, Germany and Spain).
- mpweiher 3y agoChinese manufacturers dominate wind power, taking 60% of global market China leads in renewable energy as Europe falls behind https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Energy/Chinese-manufacturers-dominate-wind-power-taking-60-of-global-market https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Energy/Chinese-manufacturer... China becomes solar energy superpower, dominates 80% of supply chain https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/china-becomes-solar-energy-superpower-dominates-80-of-supply-chain https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/china-becomes-...
- ZeroGravitas 3y agoEuropean made wind still dominates European installs. China supplies its own massively growing domestic market as well as others. It's starting to make inroads into Europe, Japan and other places where politicians have sabotaged the renewable transition to the detriment of local manufacturing, but that's a relative recent phenomenon for wind, slightly behind the pace blazed by the same countries on solar.