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While the current medical establishment isn't perfect, and I have many anecdotes of them failing my family/friends and I, they are definitely better than those

by doix 3y ago

While the current medical establishment isn't perfect, and I have many anecdotes of them failing my family/friends and I, they are definitely better than those so called support groups. I refuse to believe they are good for you. Just a bunch of people complaining and enabling hypochondria. Psychosomatic symptoms are a powerful thing. Hanging out with a bunch of people that complain about their symptoms and finding similarities with them isn't good. By all means, expirement with diet or whatever else. But no good can come from those support groups. Or maybe I am just too cynical...

bozhark 3y ago
You’re only considering the impact of the negative potential and failing to regard the positive potentials of people’s value. Humans are social beings.
tomohawk 3y ago
I think you may be too cynical. People in support groups can provide invaluable input. When you go to a doctor or surgeon, you are getting a professional's perspective. When you talk to a support group, you are hearing from people who have actually experienced the results of that. For example, another family member had a major surgery. Prior to getting the surgery, they talked to specialists at some really good institutions about what they could offer. There were surgical and non-surgical options available. However, the questions that were asked came from being in contact with a support group. These were people who had had the various procedures, and who had had them at various institutions. Without that input, we would not have been able to ask good questions, or be very discerning about what these specialists were saying. Without the support group, we would have been lost in that process. EDIT. I should also add that at the facility where the surgery was done, we met several people who had gone to very highly esteemed hospitals for the same kind of thing, but were having to have a 2nd go at it at the facility we chose. That could have been us. We learned that even well credentialed people at highly respected places will perform procedures they have little experience with.
halfcat 3y ago
You are too cynical. Don’t advise people do avoid something that might help them, even if only due to placebo. You probably have something more precise to say that’s worth saying, like how many support groups are fixed mindset and result in complaining and excuses, crabs in a bucket. And how finding, or starting, a group focused explicitly on growth mindset, would be very beneficial. So say that instead.

by doix 3y ago

bozhark 3y ago

You’re only considering the impact of the negative potential and failing to regard the positive potentials of people’s value. Humans are social beings.

tomohawk 3y ago

I think you may be too cynical. People in support groups can provide invaluable input. When you go to a doctor or surgeon, you are getting a professional's perspective. When you talk to a support group, you are hearing from people who have actually experienced the results of that. For example, another family member had a major surgery. Prior to getting the surgery, they talked to specialists at some really good institutions about what they could offer. There were surgical and non-surgical options available. However, the questions that were asked came from being in contact with a support group. These were people who had had the various procedures, and who had had them at various institutions. Without that input, we would not have been able to ask good questions, or be very discerning about what these specialists were saying. Without the support group, we would have been lost in that process. EDIT. I should also add that at the facility where the surgery was done, we met several people who had gone to very highly esteemed hospitals for the same kind of thing, but were having to have a 2nd go at it at the facility we chose. That could have been us. We learned that even well credentialed people at highly respected places will perform procedures they have little experience with.

halfcat 3y ago

You are too cynical. Don’t advise people do avoid something that might help them, even if only due to placebo. You probably have something more precise to say that’s worth saying, like how many support groups are fixed mindset and result in complaining and excuses, crabs in a bucket. And how finding, or starting, a group focused explicitly on growth mindset, would be very beneficial. So say that instead.