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It's not split at tech/non-tech. I'm happy to recommend construction crews you can tag along with for a day that will leave you a broken mess of a man with how

It's not split at tech/non-tech. I'm happy to recommend construction crews you can tag along with for a day that will leave you a broken mess of a man with how hard they work. You won't get out of bed for a forthnight after one day of work with proper roofers. My maid works 16-hour days at breakneck speed as well, with a smile on her face. Sleeps 3 hours, gets on with life. I don't know how she does it. Likewise I've seen plenty of tech teams adding negative value. Their bosses would be better off paying them to play xbox all day. I'd call it pride, but that's not the root cause either.

CableNinja 3y ago
> My maid works 16-hour days at breakneck speed as well, with a smile on her face. Sleeps 3 hours, gets on with life. I don't know how she does it. Have you considered not working your maid to death?
- figassis 3y ago
  I assume his is one of the multiple jobs she has. But happy to have him confirm or deny that.
- spacechild1 3y ago
  Have you considered it is not the only house she takes care of?
- zemvpferreira 3y ago
  I'm responsible for ~6 hours per day out of that schedule. I pay above market for those hours, but she chooses/needs to work this many hours for her own reasons. I'd never think someone could be happy or productive spending most of their waking hours working, but here we are. I'm sure she's at least a 1.5x maid compared to your average worker, too.
  - pcthrowaway 3y ago
    No judgement intended, but why do you have a maid for 6 hours per day? Unless they're doing child-raising duties as well?
spicyusername 3y ago
My maid works 16 hours a day This is an unusual thing to contribute to the conversation. Bragging about working a maid twice the average working hours of the day probably doesn't look to other people like you think it looks. It's a bit like bragging about how rude you are to wait staff, or how much you discipline your wife.
- sfn42 3y ago
  I thought it was pretty clear that their maid "maids" multiple homes. It's not like there's 16 hours of cleaning to do in one house every day.
  - resolutebat 3y ago
    For what it's worth, in countries that do employ live-in maids, it's fairly common to give them 16 hours of work every day under the theory that idle hands do the Devil's work. And since the average house does not have 16 hours worth of daily cleaning, they just invent bullshit, like washing the car every single day and mopping the floor not just daily, but twice in a row. https://mothership.sg/2018/03/maid-schedule-daily-singapore-busy/ https://mothership.sg/2018/03/maid-schedule-daily-singapore-...
    - sfn42 3y ago
      Damn that's fucked up. Where I'm from maids are a service you pay for, you don't set their working hours. Didn't consider that it's different elsewhere.
ghusto 3y ago
You're not wrong there. On further reflection I see it's not tech per se, but maybe more broadly; jobs people didn't choose, but ended up in. If you weren't interested enough to choose your job, then obviously you won't have motivation to do it well. Go hang around with your finance, HR, or even sales teams. It's incredible.
- zemvpferreira 3y ago
  You're definitely on to something with the 'interest' angle. I've seen the same thing in tech people working for extremely non-tech businesses for sure. I guess some amount of the population is just not that interested in work! Which is fine by me but I do hope they find fulfilment elsewhere.

CableNinja 3y ago

> My maid works 16-hour days at breakneck speed as well, with a smile on her face. Sleeps 3 hours, gets on with life. I don't know how she does it. Have you considered not working your maid to death?

figassis 3y ago
I assume his is one of the multiple jobs she has. But happy to have him confirm or deny that.
spacechild1 3y ago
Have you considered it is not the only house she takes care of?
zemvpferreira 3y ago
I'm responsible for ~6 hours per day out of that schedule. I pay above market for those hours, but she chooses/needs to work this many hours for her own reasons. I'd never think someone could be happy or productive spending most of their waking hours working, but here we are. I'm sure she's at least a 1.5x maid compared to your average worker, too.
- pcthrowaway 3y ago
  No judgement intended, but why do you have a maid for 6 hours per day? Unless they're doing child-raising duties as well?

spicyusername 3y ago

My maid works 16 hours a day This is an unusual thing to contribute to the conversation. Bragging about working a maid twice the average working hours of the day probably doesn't look to other people like you think it looks. It's a bit like bragging about how rude you are to wait staff, or how much you discipline your wife.

sfn42 3y ago
I thought it was pretty clear that their maid "maids" multiple homes. It's not like there's 16 hours of cleaning to do in one house every day.
- resolutebat 3y ago
  For what it's worth, in countries that do employ live-in maids, it's fairly common to give them 16 hours of work every day under the theory that idle hands do the Devil's work. And since the average house does not have 16 hours worth of daily cleaning, they just invent bullshit, like washing the car every single day and mopping the floor not just daily, but twice in a row. https://mothership.sg/2018/03/maid-schedule-daily-singapore-busy/ https://mothership.sg/2018/03/maid-schedule-daily-singapore-...
  - sfn42 3y ago
    Damn that's fucked up. Where I'm from maids are a service you pay for, you don't set their working hours. Didn't consider that it's different elsewhere.

ghusto 3y ago

You're not wrong there. On further reflection I see it's not tech per se, but maybe more broadly; jobs people didn't choose, but ended up in. If you weren't interested enough to choose your job, then obviously you won't have motivation to do it well. Go hang around with your finance, HR, or even sales teams. It's incredible.

zemvpferreira 3y ago
You're definitely on to something with the 'interest' angle. I've seen the same thing in tech people working for extremely non-tech businesses for sure. I guess some amount of the population is just not that interested in work! Which is fine by me but I do hope they find fulfilment elsewhere.