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So much this. Is there anywhere where we can see emissions by what is consumed rather than what is produced? It's pure politics to outsource everything to Chin

• iamthemonster 3y ago
  It's easy to google this data, see Figure 1 on this link, from official UK statistics: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/uks-carbon-footprint/carbon-footprint-for-the-uk-and-england-to-2019 https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/uks-carbon-footprin...
  • varispeed 3y ago
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• midasuni 3y ago
  It is mentioned in the article and they include figures. I’m not convinced by the reliability of those figures, given the carbon intensity of the imports (from a higher carbon grid in China and from the transport) Other sources put U.K. imports at 30% of total energy use, but you need to include the environmental impact too. Better to import 100MWh of goods from Iceland or Norway than 10MWh from China or India.
• verve_rat 3y ago
  The narrative that manufacturing was outsourced to China and India and those same were then blamed for carbon emissions removes agency from China and India. If they want manufacturing industry, then they should acknowledge the externalities that come with that.
  • AlecSchueler 3y ago
    But we want the things they manufacture. I'm arguing for sharing the agency, not putting it all on the UK and others. The climate doesn't care about borders. There's a global demand for manufacturing, we just don't want it in our own backyards.
• throw0101b 3y ago
  > Is there anywhere where we can see emissions by what is consumed rather than what is produced? https://ourworldindata.org/consumption-based-co2 https://ourworldindata.org/consumption-based-co2