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Then again, if you believe that it's not 'too many people' and you also concede that population will continue growing as it has for the last 650+ years and the

Then again, if you believe that it's not 'too many people' and you also concede that population will continue growing as it has for the last 650+ years and the planet obviously isn't growing then surely you must also concede that at some point it has to become 'too many people', the only question is when.

nine_k 3y ago
Population growth slows down literally everywhere, and in most countries it's below replacement level. We are living through the peak Earth population right now; it will likely be degreasing in 50 years.
- antisthenes 3y ago
  Population growth slowing down is literally collective agreement on "there are too many people".
  - dotnet00 3y ago
    No, population growth slowing down has nothing to do with a collective agreement on their being too many people. It's simply that people in developed countries don't want to deal with the trouble of raising more than 1 or 2 kids because raising kids is difficult and expensive. You need 2 kids to replace the 2 adults, but then you add in other mortality factors and it drops below replacement. Most of those people aren't agreeing that there are too many people, hell in cases like Japan, even their governments want them to have more children, they're just focusing on what strikes a balance for their comfort.
vidarh 3y ago
The population is demonstrably not continuing to grow at the same rates - all but sub-Saharan Africa is at below replacement fertility (and sub-Saharan Africa is also dropping fast), and much of the world today only experiences population growth due to immigration. With China likely now having slipped into decline net of migration, and India having dropped below fertility replacement rates and so only a couple of decades away from population decline, we're 50-100 years away from global population decline without drastic steps.
ajuc 3y ago
According to our best estimates we're already past the "peak children". World population growth has been slowing down for decades at this point, it will become negative in second half of this century. World hunger is not caused by too many people, it's entirely caused by our priorities. World produces more food than it needs and that production grows faster than the population.

nine_k 3y ago

Population growth slows down literally everywhere, and in most countries it's below replacement level. We are living through the peak Earth population right now; it will likely be degreasing in 50 years.

antisthenes 3y ago
Population growth slowing down is literally collective agreement on "there are too many people".
- dotnet00 3y ago
  No, population growth slowing down has nothing to do with a collective agreement on their being too many people. It's simply that people in developed countries don't want to deal with the trouble of raising more than 1 or 2 kids because raising kids is difficult and expensive. You need 2 kids to replace the 2 adults, but then you add in other mortality factors and it drops below replacement. Most of those people aren't agreeing that there are too many people, hell in cases like Japan, even their governments want them to have more children, they're just focusing on what strikes a balance for their comfort.

vidarh 3y ago

The population is demonstrably not continuing to grow at the same rates - all but sub-Saharan Africa is at below replacement fertility (and sub-Saharan Africa is also dropping fast), and much of the world today only experiences population growth due to immigration. With China likely now having slipped into decline net of migration, and India having dropped below fertility replacement rates and so only a couple of decades away from population decline, we're 50-100 years away from global population decline without drastic steps.

ajuc 3y ago

According to our best estimates we're already past the "peak children". World population growth has been slowing down for decades at this point, it will become negative in second half of this century. World hunger is not caused by too many people, it's entirely caused by our priorities. World produces more food than it needs and that production grows faster than the population.