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I liked the first comment there: > "According to an APS statement, 'by turning off those teenagers' phones, the student created a dangerous environment in whi

by rdtsc 3y ago

I liked the first comment there: > "According to an APS statement, 'by turning off those teenagers' phones, the student created a dangerous environment in which students might actually have been able to learn something instead of staring at their phones all day. We're just not equipped to handle that kind of thing, so we called the police instead.'"

hakdbha 3y ago
Those darn kids and their phones! Keep it down! I’m tryna watch some tv here!
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ace2358 3y ago
A few states in Australia have outright banned phones in schools. I have a few teacher friends. I’ve heard the students still aren’t interested in learning… (Jokes aside I think it’s going great for the kids and the teachers in aus)
- EMIRELADERO 3y ago
  Does the ban extend to recesses/entire school grounds? I was very introverted throught my childhood and spent my first school years' recesses not talking to anyone, just mindlessly wandering the hallways and yard. It got to a point where I didn't even know many of my classmate's names, even after spending years "with them". When I grew old enough to have my own phone that I could bring to school, it made recesses more bearable. It didn't sabotage or disincentivize any social interactions, because before that moment I had almost none with peers. Looking back on it, I didn't "lose out" on socialization because of phone use, as I simply didn't have any beforehand.
  - jojobas 3y ago
    School grounds at all times. Being alone with your thoughts is still better than scrolling all day.
    - EMIRELADERO 3y ago
      Speaking from experience, it is not. My school day was from 8AM to 4PM, lunch at 1, post-lunch recess at 1:30. Recesses lasted 30 minutes, with usually 4 per day. Years of having approximately 2 hours of alone-with-my-thoughts time (as a child to preteen, not an adult), every weekday. Not fun, and to this day I don't feel like it has given me any mental benefit.
      - whythre 3y ago
        Sounds like your school sucked and a phone was the band-aid. I doubt you are alone in this kind of ‘education’ (using the word very lightly) induced misery, but escapism via device is not much good when the real problem is the systemic misuse of time and resources in our schools.
        EMIRELADERO 3y ago
        My school was actually very academically good, and psychopedagogycally too. The teachers were often kind and so was the rest of the staff. Hell, even the classmates were cool most of the time. I consider myself quite lucky when reading Americans' complaints about their schools and recesses, with sentences such as "bring back recess!". I shudder to think of what goes on in some districts compared to what I had, which was overall quite sufficient and well spaced-out. The real problem was just me. Or, if I had to put the blame on someone else, it was my parents and the school authorities which didn't really help much. Not out of bad faith or anything, just of simple ignorance or unwillingness to think of it as important enough to warrant the help I actually needed. And to the other OC's point: not all phone use is bad. Not all "scrolling" is bad. I was quite internet-literate for my age at that time, in which, by the way, the internet wasn't the algorithmic ML doom-driven nightmare it can sometimes be today.
        jojobas 3y ago
        With all respect saving an odd one out from boredom of solitude has to give way to saving the vast majority from being stuck to their phones all the time.
  - senectus1 3y ago
    yes, its is at my kids schools
  - pixxel 3y ago
    With respect, pandering to outliers is never the answer.
    - malfist 3y ago
      Is a handicap ramp, pandering to outliers?
      - revlolz 3y ago
        Ramps are a needed accomdation for medical necessity. To my knowledge, a phone likely exacerbates the social reclusiveness. I think it's a bad analogy.
      - pixxel 3y ago
        This is a terrible analogy. Ramps don’t impede society; anyone can make use of them.
- swarnie 3y ago
  This is pretty common i think. 20 years ago when i was at school phones had to be turned off at the gate and not turned back on until you left, a 3310's text message ringtone meant someone was getting suspended. Some small exceptions were made... If you stayed late for sports practise you could turn them on outside the locker rooms to call for a lift ect... From what i understand from my nieces / nephews the rule is still in place at the same school.
MrBuddyCasino 3y ago
As a teacher, how resentful of your students do you have to be to determine this was the best course of action?
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by rdtsc 3y ago

hakdbha 3y ago

Those darn kids and their phones! Keep it down! I’m tryna watch some tv here!

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ace2358 3y ago

A few states in Australia have outright banned phones in schools. I have a few teacher friends. I’ve heard the students still aren’t interested in learning… (Jokes aside I think it’s going great for the kids and the teachers in aus)

EMIRELADERO 3y ago
Does the ban extend to recesses/entire school grounds? I was very introverted throught my childhood and spent my first school years' recesses not talking to anyone, just mindlessly wandering the hallways and yard. It got to a point where I didn't even know many of my classmate's names, even after spending years "with them". When I grew old enough to have my own phone that I could bring to school, it made recesses more bearable. It didn't sabotage or disincentivize any social interactions, because before that moment I had almost none with peers. Looking back on it, I didn't "lose out" on socialization because of phone use, as I simply didn't have any beforehand.
- jojobas 3y ago
  School grounds at all times. Being alone with your thoughts is still better than scrolling all day.
  - EMIRELADERO 3y ago
    Speaking from experience, it is not. My school day was from 8AM to 4PM, lunch at 1, post-lunch recess at 1:30. Recesses lasted 30 minutes, with usually 4 per day. Years of having approximately 2 hours of alone-with-my-thoughts time (as a child to preteen, not an adult), every weekday. Not fun, and to this day I don't feel like it has given me any mental benefit.
    - whythre 3y ago
      Sounds like your school sucked and a phone was the band-aid. I doubt you are alone in this kind of ‘education’ (using the word very lightly) induced misery, but escapism via device is not much good when the real problem is the systemic misuse of time and resources in our schools.
      - EMIRELADERO 3y ago
        My school was actually very academically good, and psychopedagogycally too. The teachers were often kind and so was the rest of the staff. Hell, even the classmates were cool most of the time. I consider myself quite lucky when reading Americans' complaints about their schools and recesses, with sentences such as "bring back recess!". I shudder to think of what goes on in some districts compared to what I had, which was overall quite sufficient and well spaced-out. The real problem was just me. Or, if I had to put the blame on someone else, it was my parents and the school authorities which didn't really help much. Not out of bad faith or anything, just of simple ignorance or unwillingness to think of it as important enough to warrant the help I actually needed. And to the other OC's point: not all phone use is bad. Not all "scrolling" is bad. I was quite internet-literate for my age at that time, in which, by the way, the internet wasn't the algorithmic ML doom-driven nightmare it can sometimes be today.
        jojobas 3y ago
        With all respect saving an odd one out from boredom of solitude has to give way to saving the vast majority from being stuck to their phones all the time.
- senectus1 3y ago
  yes, its is at my kids schools
- pixxel 3y ago
  With respect, pandering to outliers is never the answer.
  - malfist 3y ago
    Is a handicap ramp, pandering to outliers?
    - revlolz 3y ago
      Ramps are a needed accomdation for medical necessity. To my knowledge, a phone likely exacerbates the social reclusiveness. I think it's a bad analogy.
    - pixxel 3y ago
      This is a terrible analogy. Ramps don’t impede society; anyone can make use of them.
swarnie 3y ago
This is pretty common i think. 20 years ago when i was at school phones had to be turned off at the gate and not turned back on until you left, a 3310's text message ringtone meant someone was getting suspended. Some small exceptions were made... If you stayed late for sports practise you could turn them on outside the locker rooms to call for a lift ect... From what i understand from my nieces / nephews the rule is still in place at the same school.

MrBuddyCasino 3y ago

As a teacher, how resentful of your students do you have to be to determine this was the best course of action?

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