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2023 Medley Interlisp Project Annual Report

58 points by mepian 3y ago

ngcc_hk 3y ago
Interesting. I use vim and hence can this run as an external lisp there. Can it complete enough to run say PAIP, or even quicklisp … can lisp cookbook be used to learn that. or put it another perspective how it compare Common Lisp from very low level ulisp, ecl or even sbcl. Or what is the point. Tbh it seems better than mvs3.8 as that is constrained by cannot move on beyond that. This seems promising.
- mark_l_watson 3y ago
  It can run InterLisp-D or Common Lisp. That said, I would use the Vim bindings with Slime and SBCL. I ran InterLisp-D in the 1980s on my Xerox 1108 Lisp Machine (and I wrote and sold a very pricey software product for it) so I appreciate the Medley project, but if you want to work through Peter's excellent PAIP book, please use Vim+Slime+SBCL.
  - fiddlerwoaroof 3y ago
    I think their CL is CLTL1 or 2 and I think the nice thing about Medley is the whole graphical system, not the bare lisp implementation (I’m sure you know this, but some context for others who might not be as familiar with the history here)
    - lispm 3y ago
      It's in part the development environment, which started earlier, before it had a graphical display. For example: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/xerox/interlisp/Interlisp_Reference_Manual_1974.pdf http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/xerox/interlisp/Inter...
    - mark_l_watson 3y ago
      +1 correct! I loved the UI and libraries like the grapher, etc.
- LispSporks22 3y ago
  > I use vim and hence can this run as an external lisp there. I think this, and similar "How do I code my Smalltalk in Emacs?" really misses the point.
ngcc_hk 3y ago
https://interlisp.org/software/using-medley/ https://interlisp.org/software/using-medley/ And installation: https://interlisp.org/software/ https://interlisp.org/software/ Project: https://interlisp.org/ https://interlisp.org/
LispSporks22 3y ago
Went through the primer. Had a blast. Think I could live in this thing.
agumonkey 3y ago
Pretty amazing to use the guest account on https://online.interlisp.org https://online.interlisp.org thanks a lot
LanzVonL 3y ago
I'm having trouble getting this to compile on OpenBSD.

58 points by mepian 3y ago

Interesting. I use vim and hence can this run as an external lisp there. Can it complete enough to run say PAIP, or even quicklisp … can lisp cookbook be used to learn that. or put it another perspective how it compare Common Lisp from very low level ulisp, ecl or even sbcl. Or what is the point. Tbh it seems better than mvs3.8 as that is constrained by cannot move on beyond that. This seems promising.

mark_l_watson 3y ago
It can run InterLisp-D or Common Lisp. That said, I would use the Vim bindings with Slime and SBCL. I ran InterLisp-D in the 1980s on my Xerox 1108 Lisp Machine (and I wrote and sold a very pricey software product for it) so I appreciate the Medley project, but if you want to work through Peter's excellent PAIP book, please use Vim+Slime+SBCL.
- fiddlerwoaroof 3y ago
  I think their CL is CLTL1 or 2 and I think the nice thing about Medley is the whole graphical system, not the bare lisp implementation (I’m sure you know this, but some context for others who might not be as familiar with the history here)
  - lispm 3y ago
    It's in part the development environment, which started earlier, before it had a graphical display. For example: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/xerox/interlisp/Interlisp_Reference_Manual_1974.pdf http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/xerox/interlisp/Inter...
  - mark_l_watson 3y ago
    +1 correct! I loved the UI and libraries like the grapher, etc.
LispSporks22 3y ago
> I use vim and hence can this run as an external lisp there. I think this, and similar "How do I code my Smalltalk in Emacs?" really misses the point.

ngcc_hk 3y ago

https://interlisp.org/software/using-medley/ https://interlisp.org/software/using-medley/ And installation: https://interlisp.org/software/ https://interlisp.org/software/ Project: https://interlisp.org/ https://interlisp.org/

LispSporks22 3y ago

Went through the primer. Had a blast. Think I could live in this thing.

agumonkey 3y ago

Pretty amazing to use the guest account on https://online.interlisp.org https://online.interlisp.org thanks a lot

LanzVonL 3y ago

I'm having trouble getting this to compile on OpenBSD.