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Tesla is very very good at software engineering. They still need to find the balance in their software and process engineering, though.

stefan_ 3y ago
You are talking about the company that wrote logs to the fully read-write filesystem of their infotainment system and killed the EMMC from raw flash cycles within as few as 2 years. Recalled 10 years later.
- rpmisms 3y ago
  Yes, this happened to me, although it took 10 years. Free replacement, and the car still worked fine.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    It's still a major embedded engineering oversight on their part. We had fallback developed for such cases in $5 embedded devices. Calling out Tesla as a model for excellent software is insulting to SW that's actually quality. What Tesla SW has and others lack, is a great "wow" factor, which consumers who don't get to see how the sausage is made, mistakenly associate with 'quality' because it behaves like their iPad, but don't know all the skeletons in that closet.
    - rpmisms 3y ago
      Yeah, it's also a mistake they made 10 years ago. Tesla is very good at automotive software engineering.
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        >Yeah, it's also a mistake they made 10 years ago. You're making it sound like that mistake was an "I spilled my coffee on you boo-boo" and not a terrible engineering decision that should not have passed anyone with actual experience in the embedded industry, let alone a team. If this is the kind of engineering oversights that ends up in Tesla SW, only God knows what else they have lurking in there that hasn't yet reared its ugly head. >Tesla is very good at automotive software engineering. Citation needed. Repeating something doesn't make it true.
    - mikem69 3y ago
      You don’t appear to be arguing in good faith. It was a minor issue they had 10 years ago that was fixed. Tesla obviously has excellent software, but I’m interested in what you’d consider to be excellent software, and which companies would meet your absurd and non-sensical expectations. Please name some companies that meet your standards.
ahahahahah 3y ago
Yeah, they have some truly breathtaking software controlling the automatic wipers. It's like a true ai, probably competitive with a 6 month or so old child. The automatic high beams are up there with the pinnacle of software engineering as well.
- rpmisms 3y ago
  I've heard a lot about how bad they are, but I've just never noticed either doing anything but their job.

stefan_ 3y ago

You are talking about the company that wrote logs to the fully read-write filesystem of their infotainment system and killed the EMMC from raw flash cycles within as few as 2 years. Recalled 10 years later.

rpmisms 3y ago
Yes, this happened to me, although it took 10 years. Free replacement, and the car still worked fine.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  It's still a major embedded engineering oversight on their part. We had fallback developed for such cases in $5 embedded devices. Calling out Tesla as a model for excellent software is insulting to SW that's actually quality. What Tesla SW has and others lack, is a great "wow" factor, which consumers who don't get to see how the sausage is made, mistakenly associate with 'quality' because it behaves like their iPad, but don't know all the skeletons in that closet.
  - rpmisms 3y ago
    Yeah, it's also a mistake they made 10 years ago. Tesla is very good at automotive software engineering.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      >Yeah, it's also a mistake they made 10 years ago. You're making it sound like that mistake was an "I spilled my coffee on you boo-boo" and not a terrible engineering decision that should not have passed anyone with actual experience in the embedded industry, let alone a team. If this is the kind of engineering oversights that ends up in Tesla SW, only God knows what else they have lurking in there that hasn't yet reared its ugly head. >Tesla is very good at automotive software engineering. Citation needed. Repeating something doesn't make it true.
  - mikem69 3y ago
    You don’t appear to be arguing in good faith. It was a minor issue they had 10 years ago that was fixed. Tesla obviously has excellent software, but I’m interested in what you’d consider to be excellent software, and which companies would meet your absurd and non-sensical expectations. Please name some companies that meet your standards.

ahahahahah 3y ago

Yeah, they have some truly breathtaking software controlling the automatic wipers. It's like a true ai, probably competitive with a 6 month or so old child. The automatic high beams are up there with the pinnacle of software engineering as well.

rpmisms 3y ago
I've heard a lot about how bad they are, but I've just never noticed either doing anything but their job.