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My Tesla had an update fail, and it didn't break anything, I just got a new update package the next day. I also replaced my own headlight and had to run a soft

My Tesla had an update fail, and it didn't break anything, I just got a new update package the next day. I also replaced my own headlight and had to run a software update to initialize the new part. I called a service center and had a software update in less than an hour. Try that at Audi.

iknowstuff 3y ago
Tesla knows what it’s doing. Not these guys.
- rpmisms 3y ago
  That's the point I'm making. Fail-safe and good testing.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  They know so well that there was a report yesterday showing how tesla’s a low quality vehicle. Behind the dacia.
  - mikem69 3y ago
    The report regarding TUV inspections? Do you do understand that failing those inspections doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with the car, right? Tires, wiper blades, or even rust on rotors (due to only using regenerative braking) will cause a fail. Having owned Mercedes, Audi, Toyota, Porsche, Range Rover, my Teslas have been the most reliable vehicles I’ve ever owned. Not a single mechanical issue over 4 cars and hundreds of thousands of miles.
j45 3y ago
This is the way. Also the scrutiny Tesla has received at the start of it's operations might be quite a bit more than the other makers. I'm hearing Kia/Hyundai's needing a replacement battery are having to wait months if not up to a year, while new ones sell away. Buying a used EV will become like buying a used ICE car - there are ways to do it well, and ignoring either is at your peril... and no guarantee a brand new one will be reliable, nor the warranty performant when needed.
neither_color 3y ago
Back when it was in news cycles that Tesla's stock couldn't possibly be worth more than legacy automakers' because it was only a matter of time until they came for Tesla's lunch, I couldn't imagine they'd fumble it this badly.
- savagej 3y ago
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- inferiorhuman 3y ago
  Lord knows Tesla's never had any problems with updates before… https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/my-car-is-bricked-by-a-failed-update.158338/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/my-car-is-bricked-by... https://old.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/112oqln/new_tesla_model_3_bricked_after_update/ https://old.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/112oqln/new_te... https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/failed-software-update-bricked-my-2020-x-today.258670/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/failed-software-upda... https://old.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/qt0ekf/2021_model_s_bricked/ https://old.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/qt0ekf/2021_mo...
alphabettsy 3y ago
An Audi doesn’t need a software update to replace a light from my experience. Also, my experience with Audi and BMW are that community tools exists to let you flash modules and change settings all on your own. Try that on a Tesla. Tesla is way ahead on software imo, but I don’t want my car to be like modern smartphones where they’re dependent on the manufacturer to maintain and keep working.
- mikem69 3y ago
  Mine did - had to code the module to the car.
  - alphabettsy 3y ago
    This is usually because the modules are generic and don’t know how to behave, for example, a light fixture needs to know if it’s US or Germany and work accordingly. You could’ve done it yourself with the proper software and knowledge is my point and most things don’t require this.
    - mikem69 3y ago
      I tried to do it myself, but the module was running newer software than the vehicle, and required the other vehicle modules to be flashed to the same software version.
smsm42 3y ago
I replaced two of my lights in my car and I had to re-adjust the carpet piece that covers it. That's all I had to do, no software updates, no service centers, nothing. Are we going in the future to have to call a service center for a software update when we replace a floor mat or a windshield wiper?
- mikem69 3y ago
  What car do you drive? Go replace the headlights in a modern vehicle and see what happens. You have to code the module to the vehicle.
  - smsm42 3y ago
    Not a Tesla, this is for sure. As long as there are any cars with physical controls and replaceable lightbulbs on the market, those are the ones I'll be driving. Fortunately, this is still very much the case, especially if a car for you is a means of transportation, not the expression of your ego.
    - mikem69 3y ago
      Doesn’t really seem like you even know what we’re discussing. You don’t need to do any coding when replacing bulbs (assuming the car has bulbs) - we’re talking about the entire headlight, which has modules that require coding. This has been true as far back as 1999, when my BMW needed its HID module flashed. As for bulbs themselves, even a base corolla now has LED headlights that you won’t be replacing yourself. I suppose one could consider a Toyota Corolla to be an “expression of your ego”, but I’m not sure who would.

iknowstuff 3y ago

Tesla knows what it’s doing. Not these guys.

rpmisms 3y ago
That's the point I'm making. Fail-safe and good testing.
gumballindie 3y ago
They know so well that there was a report yesterday showing how tesla’s a low quality vehicle. Behind the dacia.
- mikem69 3y ago
  The report regarding TUV inspections? Do you do understand that failing those inspections doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with the car, right? Tires, wiper blades, or even rust on rotors (due to only using regenerative braking) will cause a fail. Having owned Mercedes, Audi, Toyota, Porsche, Range Rover, my Teslas have been the most reliable vehicles I’ve ever owned. Not a single mechanical issue over 4 cars and hundreds of thousands of miles.

j45 3y ago

This is the way. Also the scrutiny Tesla has received at the start of it's operations might be quite a bit more than the other makers. I'm hearing Kia/Hyundai's needing a replacement battery are having to wait months if not up to a year, while new ones sell away. Buying a used EV will become like buying a used ICE car - there are ways to do it well, and ignoring either is at your peril... and no guarantee a brand new one will be reliable, nor the warranty performant when needed.

neither_color 3y ago

Back when it was in news cycles that Tesla's stock couldn't possibly be worth more than legacy automakers' because it was only a matter of time until they came for Tesla's lunch, I couldn't imagine they'd fumble it this badly.

savagej 3y ago
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inferiorhuman 3y ago
Lord knows Tesla's never had any problems with updates before… https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/my-car-is-bricked-by-a-failed-update.158338/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/my-car-is-bricked-by... https://old.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/112oqln/new_tesla_model_3_bricked_after_update/ https://old.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/112oqln/new_te... https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/failed-software-update-bricked-my-2020-x-today.258670/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/failed-software-upda... https://old.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/qt0ekf/2021_model_s_bricked/ https://old.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/qt0ekf/2021_mo...

alphabettsy 3y ago

An Audi doesn’t need a software update to replace a light from my experience. Also, my experience with Audi and BMW are that community tools exists to let you flash modules and change settings all on your own. Try that on a Tesla. Tesla is way ahead on software imo, but I don’t want my car to be like modern smartphones where they’re dependent on the manufacturer to maintain and keep working.

mikem69 3y ago
Mine did - had to code the module to the car.
- alphabettsy 3y ago
  This is usually because the modules are generic and don’t know how to behave, for example, a light fixture needs to know if it’s US or Germany and work accordingly. You could’ve done it yourself with the proper software and knowledge is my point and most things don’t require this.
  - mikem69 3y ago
    I tried to do it myself, but the module was running newer software than the vehicle, and required the other vehicle modules to be flashed to the same software version.

smsm42 3y ago

I replaced two of my lights in my car and I had to re-adjust the carpet piece that covers it. That's all I had to do, no software updates, no service centers, nothing. Are we going in the future to have to call a service center for a software update when we replace a floor mat or a windshield wiper?

mikem69 3y ago
What car do you drive? Go replace the headlights in a modern vehicle and see what happens. You have to code the module to the vehicle.
- smsm42 3y ago
  Not a Tesla, this is for sure. As long as there are any cars with physical controls and replaceable lightbulbs on the market, those are the ones I'll be driving. Fortunately, this is still very much the case, especially if a car for you is a means of transportation, not the expression of your ego.
  - mikem69 3y ago
    Doesn’t really seem like you even know what we’re discussing. You don’t need to do any coding when replacing bulbs (assuming the car has bulbs) - we’re talking about the entire headlight, which has modules that require coding. This has been true as far back as 1999, when my BMW needed its HID module flashed. As for bulbs themselves, even a base corolla now has LED headlights that you won’t be replacing yourself. I suppose one could consider a Toyota Corolla to be an “expression of your ego”, but I’m not sure who would.