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> We do know that stricter sentencing doesn't work "Doesn't work" in what sense? In a rehabilitative sense? Is everyone in agreement that this is its intended

> We do know that stricter sentencing doesn't work "Doesn't work" in what sense? In a rehabilitative sense? Is everyone in agreement that this is its intended purpose? Also: for what types of crimes? Kind of hard to believe really, you think the Code of Hammurabi didn't work?

smt88 3y ago
No need to believe me when you could have spent this same amount of time just researching it for yourself. It's probably the first thing anyone talks about when they seriously discuss reducing crime rates. tl;dr If you put enough people in prison for long enough, you will naturally reduce the crime rate because such a huge number of people are incarcerated. That doesn't justify things like life sentences for possession of marijuana. But overall, you don't reduce an individual's likelihood to commit a crime either before or after their time in prison using longer sentences. > Kind of hard to believe really, you think the Code of Hammurabi didn't work? No, I don't. 1. https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf 2. https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/business-law/do-harsher-punishments-deter-crime https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/business-law/do-harsher-pu... 3. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/nov/19/do-long-jail-sentences-stop-we-ask-the-expert https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/nov/19/do-long... 4. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180514-do-long-prison-sentences-deter-crime https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180514-do-long-prison-s... 5. https://counciloncj.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Impact-of-Long-Sentences-on-Public-Safety.pdf https://counciloncj.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Impact-of... 6. https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/05/does-being-tough-on-crime-actually-deter-crime/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/05/does-being-tough-on-... 7. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/crime-and-punishment/201804/why-punishment-doesnt-reduce-crime https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/crime-and-punishment...

smt88 3y ago

No need to believe me when you could have spent this same amount of time just researching it for yourself. It's probably the first thing anyone talks about when they seriously discuss reducing crime rates. tl;dr If you put enough people in prison for long enough, you will naturally reduce the crime rate because such a huge number of people are incarcerated. That doesn't justify things like life sentences for possession of marijuana. But overall, you don't reduce an individual's likelihood to commit a crime either before or after their time in prison using longer sentences. > Kind of hard to believe really, you think the Code of Hammurabi didn't work? No, I don't. 1. https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf 2. https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/business-law/do-harsher-punishments-deter-crime https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/business-law/do-harsher-pu... 3. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/nov/19/do-long-jail-sentences-stop-we-ask-the-expert https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/nov/19/do-long... 4. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180514-do-long-prison-sentences-deter-crime https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180514-do-long-prison-s... 5. https://counciloncj.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Impact-of-Long-Sentences-on-Public-Safety.pdf https://counciloncj.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Impact-of... 6. https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/05/does-being-tough-on-crime-actually-deter-crime/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/05/does-being-tough-on-... 7. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/crime-and-punishment/201804/why-punishment-doesnt-reduce-crime https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/crime-and-punishment...