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HN 2.0 2.0

9 points by zupreme 14y ago

orta 14y ago
Claiming to be HackerNews 2.0 seems dishonest, being that you're not the original author of hackernews. Which is probably why they banned your feed, imagine hacker news calling itself Slashdot 2.0 or digg being reddit 2.0. It seems like a nice site, but it could probably do with re-branding.
- zupreme 14y ago
  That's why I kept the terms YCombinator and Hacker News out of the domain name. I felt that HN2 got the point across. As I pointed out in the blog post, HN2.co is my way of paying homage to a great resource by adding additional functionality. Thanks for looking, and thanks for your feedback.
  - fredsters_s 14y ago
    Props for shipping. But how are you adding functionality? It's really not that hard to click links. Tangent: all this 'redesign HN' stuff is misguided. HN is brilliantly designed. It's sparse, it's not pretty, but it would be hard to improve the design from a UX point of view. Good design is about thought, not about shininess.
    - zupreme 14y ago
      Good points. The main goal was to make a site that let the visitor consume great content from HN, but without accumulating the clutter of multiple windows and tabs, and without the hassle of hitting the back button over and over to go back to HN after reading an article. For future functionality I would like to add the ability to post links to the original stories to social networks right from the UI, to mark certain stories as "watched" and to receive either push notifications or AJAX-refreshed notifications when a story you are "watching" gets a new comment or when you get a reply to a comment you have posted.
      - WalterSear 14y ago
        But collecting tabs is how the web works. You follow article after article, until all the questions are closed, marked for later reading, or you run out of time. Oh, and removing the comments? Dude! If you wanted to improve HN, make the comments and linked site accessible at once, so people don't have to jump from one to the other.
        zupreme 14y ago
        I hear you. I plan to add the comments. I just didn't have time to do so this weekend. I expect to have them there within the next few days. If you have any suggestions for how best to place them without adding clutter, I'd be grateful. Thanks.
trentmb 14y ago
Seems to require JavaScript. I'm sure this was a fun project, but regular HN suits my needs.
- zupreme 14y ago
  It does. Quite a bit of it actually. Thanks for trying it out and please do check back later. Based on the feedback I get from the HN community I'd like to add a lot more functionality down the road without adding clutter to the UI.
ORioN63 14y ago
I'm sorry, but this is just not for me. I like to have a lot of screen space. The HN sidebar kills it. Also I have a horrible habit of just middle-clicking all links I am interested. The list of open tabs grows fast, but that way I can track everything that I'm working on and/or reading.
wglb 14y ago
Disingenuous to call it HN, as you do not appear to be Paul Graham or any of the YC team.
- zupreme 14y ago
  I'm not, nor do I claim to be. I'm a fan who wanted a different interface and decided to share it with the community. Thanks for looking.
  - wglb 14y ago
    I'm not, - if you mean you are not calling it HN, the title is HN 2.0. As far as your site, perhaps being a minimalist, I prefer the current site design, as it serves my needs nicely.
GreyTheory 14y ago
I suggest you try and create your own brand, rather than trying to stand on the backs of the people that have worked so hard to make this site what it is over at ycombinator. Hell, it just seems cheeky. And badly done. Change the name, change the color scheme and maybe revamp the design... then you might have a good project.
- zupreme 14y ago
  Thanks. I've got my hands full with other projects at the moment. This was a fun weekend project that I will revisit from time to time to add features to, but it is not intended to be a new news site, as such. It's just a different UI for reading stories from HN, just like the many other HN redesign posts that show up here every few weeks. I hope some enjoy it and find it useful. Thanks for taking the time to look and comment.
MaysonL 14y ago
Why don't these people fix something that's broken? I.e. do something to Gmail or Google Reader.
cr4zy 14y ago
Sites that frame bust like nytimes and stackoverflow will break this somewhat. I like the idea though.
- BhujangiJedi 14y ago
  They can mostly be handled, as I discovered when creating a Chrome plug-in with a similar interface: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/beoobakjmicjpifdpcbfdgifhimhpnen https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/beoobakjmicjpifdpc... It's sites like github, which use X-Frame-Options, that can't be displayed in a iframe.
molecule 14y ago
HN 2001 - An iFrame Odyssey
shousper 14y ago
This is the second post I've seen of late with someone trying to redesign or change the face of HN. Has nobody thought to just create an awesome userscript/style?

9 points by zupreme 14y ago

orta 14y ago

Claiming to be HackerNews 2.0 seems dishonest, being that you're not the original author of hackernews. Which is probably why they banned your feed, imagine hacker news calling itself Slashdot 2.0 or digg being reddit 2.0. It seems like a nice site, but it could probably do with re-branding.

zupreme 14y ago
That's why I kept the terms YCombinator and Hacker News out of the domain name. I felt that HN2 got the point across. As I pointed out in the blog post, HN2.co is my way of paying homage to a great resource by adding additional functionality. Thanks for looking, and thanks for your feedback.
- fredsters_s 14y ago
  Props for shipping. But how are you adding functionality? It's really not that hard to click links. Tangent: all this 'redesign HN' stuff is misguided. HN is brilliantly designed. It's sparse, it's not pretty, but it would be hard to improve the design from a UX point of view. Good design is about thought, not about shininess.
  - zupreme 14y ago
    Good points. The main goal was to make a site that let the visitor consume great content from HN, but without accumulating the clutter of multiple windows and tabs, and without the hassle of hitting the back button over and over to go back to HN after reading an article. For future functionality I would like to add the ability to post links to the original stories to social networks right from the UI, to mark certain stories as "watched" and to receive either push notifications or AJAX-refreshed notifications when a story you are "watching" gets a new comment or when you get a reply to a comment you have posted.
    - WalterSear 14y ago
      But collecting tabs is how the web works. You follow article after article, until all the questions are closed, marked for later reading, or you run out of time. Oh, and removing the comments? Dude! If you wanted to improve HN, make the comments and linked site accessible at once, so people don't have to jump from one to the other.
      - zupreme 14y ago
        I hear you. I plan to add the comments. I just didn't have time to do so this weekend. I expect to have them there within the next few days. If you have any suggestions for how best to place them without adding clutter, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

trentmb 14y ago

Seems to require JavaScript. I'm sure this was a fun project, but regular HN suits my needs.

zupreme 14y ago
It does. Quite a bit of it actually. Thanks for trying it out and please do check back later. Based on the feedback I get from the HN community I'd like to add a lot more functionality down the road without adding clutter to the UI.

ORioN63 14y ago

I'm sorry, but this is just not for me. I like to have a lot of screen space. The HN sidebar kills it. Also I have a horrible habit of just middle-clicking all links I am interested. The list of open tabs grows fast, but that way I can track everything that I'm working on and/or reading.

wglb 14y ago

Disingenuous to call it HN, as you do not appear to be Paul Graham or any of the YC team.

zupreme 14y ago
I'm not, nor do I claim to be. I'm a fan who wanted a different interface and decided to share it with the community. Thanks for looking.
- wglb 14y ago
  I'm not, - if you mean you are not calling it HN, the title is HN 2.0. As far as your site, perhaps being a minimalist, I prefer the current site design, as it serves my needs nicely.

GreyTheory 14y ago

I suggest you try and create your own brand, rather than trying to stand on the backs of the people that have worked so hard to make this site what it is over at ycombinator. Hell, it just seems cheeky. And badly done. Change the name, change the color scheme and maybe revamp the design... then you might have a good project.

zupreme 14y ago
Thanks. I've got my hands full with other projects at the moment. This was a fun weekend project that I will revisit from time to time to add features to, but it is not intended to be a new news site, as such. It's just a different UI for reading stories from HN, just like the many other HN redesign posts that show up here every few weeks. I hope some enjoy it and find it useful. Thanks for taking the time to look and comment.

MaysonL 14y ago

Why don't these people fix something that's broken? I.e. do something to Gmail or Google Reader.

cr4zy 14y ago

Sites that frame bust like nytimes and stackoverflow will break this somewhat. I like the idea though.

BhujangiJedi 14y ago
They can mostly be handled, as I discovered when creating a Chrome plug-in with a similar interface: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/beoobakjmicjpifdpcbfdgifhimhpnen https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/beoobakjmicjpifdpc... It's sites like github, which use X-Frame-Options, that can't be displayed in a iframe.

molecule 14y ago

HN 2001 - An iFrame Odyssey

shousper 14y ago

This is the second post I've seen of late with someone trying to redesign or change the face of HN. Has nobody thought to just create an awesome userscript/style?