> I feel that it's the kind of argument you devise when you think language is the fundamental basis of reality rather than a (flawed) way to model it. I think

> I feel that it's the kind of argument you devise when you think language is the fundamental basis of reality rather than a (flawed) way to model it. I think it's both - unless ~everyone is secretly playing a gag and joking about everything they say (as opposed to being mostly sincere about their claims, as I believe the case to be, and I've never once encountered someone mentioning it), I can't see how it is otherwise.