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Elon Musk promised an anti-'woke' chatbot. It's not going as planned

16 points by MilnerRoute 3y ago

lebean 3y ago
lmao merry Christmas
ksaj 3y ago
Isn't this more of an olive branch from Elon. Maybe he can do a good thing, even if he can't get to the level of admitting it. I'm kidding no one, for sure.
two_handfuls 3y ago
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
- tlb 3y ago
  The bias is really towards recency, because LLMs are mostly trained on text scraped from the internet. If you incorporated older content, the bias would be much less liberal. It'd be interesting to train one on only pre-1950 content.
  - ggm 3y ago
    So all those WPA documents and inter war pan socialist unity texts, and the Fabians like Sydney and Beartrice Webb...
    - joeamroo 3y ago
      But reality isn't biased towards the radical ideas of its time. Overton Window and all..
- Closi 3y ago
  One of my least favourite quotes! Reality has no political opinion and there is no ground-truth about if left or right is 'real'. I'm left-leaning, but hate the quote just because it dismisses conservatism (which is a legitimately held opinion which is just as valid as liberalism).
  - two_handfuls 3y ago
    > no ground-truth about if left or right is 'real'. The quote about reality having a liberal bias is a joke about how republicans lie a lot and then claim that the courts or the news (or everything, really) has a “bias” against them. Here is an example for you. Title mentions “brazen corruption” and reading the article they are complaining about… the FBI raiding mar-a-lago to retrieve stolen nuclear documents. Link: https://www.foxnews.com/media/sean-hannity-seeing-brazen-level-political-bias-corruption-fbi-doj.amp https://www.foxnews.com/media/sean-hannity-seeing-brazen-lev...
paulddraper 3y ago
Anything to get ad revenue for "news" articles
082349872349872 3y ago
> Musk said, “we are taking immediate action to shift Grok closer to politically neutral.” What even is "politically neutral" in a global context? Is this one of those irregular conjugations? I am one of the real ${DEMONYM}s. You are politically neutral. He/she is a wingnut.
- ggm 3y ago
  The idea of the overton window shifting makes a static neutrality highly suspect
superduty 3y ago
[flagged]
- Moomoomoo309 3y ago
  That's true, I bet the author never could have sabotaged California's high speed rail program with a stupid idea they knew wouldn't work while also wasting a bunch of people's time and money proving that it, in fact, doesn't work.
  - superduty 3y ago
    Huh? Say more. But make it relevant.
jumboonsale 3y ago
Looks good.
GauntletWizard 3y ago
Garbage in, garbage out.
I_Am_Nous 3y ago
>A prominent anti-vaccine influencer complained that when he asked Grok why vaccines cause autism, the chatbot responded, “Vaccines do not cause autism,” calling it “a myth that has been debunked by numerous scientific studies.” "Elon, this AI of yours isn't protecting my worldview!"
rsynnott 3y ago
> “I’ve been using Grok as well as ChatGPT a lot as research assistants,” Excuse me, what.
slimebot80 3y ago
Elon doesn't especially care, as it's simply another grifting scheme to bail out lower levels of his pyramid.

16 points by MilnerRoute 3y ago

lmao merry Christmas

ksaj 3y ago

Isn't this more of an olive branch from Elon. Maybe he can do a good thing, even if he can't get to the level of admitting it. I'm kidding no one, for sure.

two_handfuls 3y ago

Reality has a well-known liberal bias.

tlb 3y ago
The bias is really towards recency, because LLMs are mostly trained on text scraped from the internet. If you incorporated older content, the bias would be much less liberal. It'd be interesting to train one on only pre-1950 content.
- ggm 3y ago
  So all those WPA documents and inter war pan socialist unity texts, and the Fabians like Sydney and Beartrice Webb...
  - joeamroo 3y ago
    But reality isn't biased towards the radical ideas of its time. Overton Window and all..
Closi 3y ago
One of my least favourite quotes! Reality has no political opinion and there is no ground-truth about if left or right is 'real'. I'm left-leaning, but hate the quote just because it dismisses conservatism (which is a legitimately held opinion which is just as valid as liberalism).
- two_handfuls 3y ago
  > no ground-truth about if left or right is 'real'. The quote about reality having a liberal bias is a joke about how republicans lie a lot and then claim that the courts or the news (or everything, really) has a “bias” against them. Here is an example for you. Title mentions “brazen corruption” and reading the article they are complaining about… the FBI raiding mar-a-lago to retrieve stolen nuclear documents. Link: https://www.foxnews.com/media/sean-hannity-seeing-brazen-level-political-bias-corruption-fbi-doj.amp https://www.foxnews.com/media/sean-hannity-seeing-brazen-lev...

paulddraper 3y ago

Anything to get ad revenue for "news" articles

082349872349872 3y ago

> Musk said, “we are taking immediate action to shift Grok closer to politically neutral.” What even is "politically neutral" in a global context? Is this one of those irregular conjugations? I am one of the real ${DEMONYM}s. You are politically neutral. He/she is a wingnut.

ggm 3y ago
The idea of the overton window shifting makes a static neutrality highly suspect

superduty 3y ago

[flagged]

Moomoomoo309 3y ago
That's true, I bet the author never could have sabotaged California's high speed rail program with a stupid idea they knew wouldn't work while also wasting a bunch of people's time and money proving that it, in fact, doesn't work.
- superduty 3y ago
  Huh? Say more. But make it relevant.

jumboonsale 3y ago

Looks good.

GauntletWizard 3y ago

Garbage in, garbage out.

I_Am_Nous 3y ago

>A prominent anti-vaccine influencer complained that when he asked Grok why vaccines cause autism, the chatbot responded, “Vaccines do not cause autism,” calling it “a myth that has been debunked by numerous scientific studies.” "Elon, this AI of yours isn't protecting my worldview!"

rsynnott 3y ago

> “I’ve been using Grok as well as ChatGPT a lot as research assistants,” Excuse me, what.

slimebot80 3y ago

Elon doesn't especially care, as it's simply another grifting scheme to bail out lower levels of his pyramid.