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Being autistic is why he got given the anti-psychotic in the first place, despite it not being in his interest as a patient, when people hear a patient is autis

Being autistic is why he got given the anti-psychotic in the first place, despite it not being in his interest as a patient, when people hear a patient is autistic or see autistic behaviour they dehumanize and give them drugs for the sake of personal convenience. Who is going to question it - they’re autistic and the person giving them the drug was a doctor - what right do people have to question such things? As such, there’s little disincentive for doctors to abuse their patients with anti-psychotics to shut them up. It also makes it more likely that their chart will be ignored, as obviously the request against anti-psychotics might have been the personal request of somebody with a compromised mind. The person reading the chart is a doctor, they know they’re very intelligent, so they know better.

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slibhb 3y ago
Careful now, you wouldn't want to "dehumanize" doctors, would you?
- faeriechangling 3y ago
  Great question. Here's my response. My thinking is, essentially, doctors aren't really at risk of being dehumanised by having a few people like me. I also don't see myself as dehumanising them, more portraying them as flawed humans pursuing their own self-interest. Doctors are aware of several positive correlations in Autism, autistics kick ass at the Raven's Progressive Matrices test [1] for instance. Yet the DSM-V doesn't mention this, it just defines autism as a set of deficiencies and impairments [2]. Why is this? Well it's all because the medical system has little incentive to portray their patients as able and capable - this only implies they do not need their help, and thus there is no need for them to provide and be paid for services. So with no outside criticism, this sort of attitude will just be how things are. There's other controversies I could name, like the genocide [3], the ongoing torture [4], the open eugenics [5], the suspected eugenics [6], the historical connection between the gold standard therapy for Autism and gay/trans conversion therapy [7][8], the stigma against mental illness amongst mental health professionals [9], or worse care through diagnostic overshadowing [10] I think the point of my posting, is I believe the attitudes towards autistic people in medicine is not good, I believe this isn't some unfortunately inevitable tragedy, or that doctors are inhuman monsters. What I more want to point out is how medical students are introduced to autism as just another pathology in their reference materials like the DSM-V from day 1, and how their views are coloured by this in a way that makes them more callous, and also how this entire attitude helps colour the views of broader society. I find the entire situation very frustrating. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4287210/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4287210/ [2] https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/hcp-dsm.html https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/hcp-dsm.html [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4 [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Rotenberg_Center https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Rotenberg_Center [5] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3377811/Britain-s-largest-sperm-bank-bans-men-dyslexia-autism-ADHD-donating-triggering-outrage-eugenics.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3377811/Britain-s... [6] https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/neurodiverse-age/202108/why-autistic-people-are-worried-spectrum-10k https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/neurodiverse-age/202... [7] https://catalystjournal.org/index.php/catalyst/article/view/29579/23427 https://catalystjournal.org/index.php/catalyst/article/view/... [8] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34407211/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34407211/ [9] https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0280739 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal... [10] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/inm.13034 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/inm.13034

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slibhb 3y ago

Careful now, you wouldn't want to "dehumanize" doctors, would you?

faeriechangling 3y ago
Great question. Here's my response. My thinking is, essentially, doctors aren't really at risk of being dehumanised by having a few people like me. I also don't see myself as dehumanising them, more portraying them as flawed humans pursuing their own self-interest. Doctors are aware of several positive correlations in Autism, autistics kick ass at the Raven's Progressive Matrices test [1] for instance. Yet the DSM-V doesn't mention this, it just defines autism as a set of deficiencies and impairments [2]. Why is this? Well it's all because the medical system has little incentive to portray their patients as able and capable - this only implies they do not need their help, and thus there is no need for them to provide and be paid for services. So with no outside criticism, this sort of attitude will just be how things are. There's other controversies I could name, like the genocide [3], the ongoing torture [4], the open eugenics [5], the suspected eugenics [6], the historical connection between the gold standard therapy for Autism and gay/trans conversion therapy [7][8], the stigma against mental illness amongst mental health professionals [9], or worse care through diagnostic overshadowing [10] I think the point of my posting, is I believe the attitudes towards autistic people in medicine is not good, I believe this isn't some unfortunately inevitable tragedy, or that doctors are inhuman monsters. What I more want to point out is how medical students are introduced to autism as just another pathology in their reference materials like the DSM-V from day 1, and how their views are coloured by this in a way that makes them more callous, and also how this entire attitude helps colour the views of broader society. I find the entire situation very frustrating. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4287210/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4287210/ [2] https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/hcp-dsm.html https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/hcp-dsm.html [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4 [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Rotenberg_Center https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Rotenberg_Center [5] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3377811/Britain-s-largest-sperm-bank-bans-men-dyslexia-autism-ADHD-donating-triggering-outrage-eugenics.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3377811/Britain-s... [6] https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/neurodiverse-age/202108/why-autistic-people-are-worried-spectrum-10k https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/neurodiverse-age/202... [7] https://catalystjournal.org/index.php/catalyst/article/view/29579/23427 https://catalystjournal.org/index.php/catalyst/article/view/... [8] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34407211/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34407211/ [9] https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0280739 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal... [10] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/inm.13034 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/inm.13034