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Unpopular opinion: I like Win11 (that district which is bloatware-lite) and running shutup10 to fully uninstall Cortana, ShatGPT, and disable the extra sneaky t

Unpopular opinion: I like Win11 (that district which is bloatware-lite) and running shutup10 to fully uninstall Cortana, ShatGPT, and disable the extra sneaky telemetry and privacy nightmares… can’t complain.

kreeben 3y ago
>> fully uninstall Cortana >> disable the extra sneaky telemetry and privacy nightmares Does that require a rinse and repeat at every monthly Windows Update?
II2II 3y ago
The article isn't very critical of Windows 11. It simply points out that many consumers didn't feel like it was a compelling upgrade if it meant upgrading their computer as well. Then you have the usual inertia with Windows. This isn't the first time Microsoft has put out a less than compelling upgrade.
- anakaine 3y ago
  As a rule of thumb, every second release is a turd. Windows 8 was a turd. Windows 10 was quite good. Windows 11 seems to walk, talk, and smell like a turd.
freitzkriesler2 3y ago
I too like windows 11. From a UX perspective it's much better than Windows 10. Chop out the unnecessary bits and it's a solid contender.
- bigstrat2003 3y ago
  What makes Win11 bad is precisely those unnecessary bits, though. Sure, Win11 is perfectly fine if you take the time to de-crapify it. But the point is that your OS should not come with crapware out of the box! Windows used to not need that, and there's no excuse for MS adding all the consumer hostile crap they have added in recent years.
  - Kye 3y ago
    In practice, for most people who had an OEM install, it did. Now the crapware is standard, which makes automated removal tools viable. This is an improvement over googling processes you didn't recognize to see if it had an uninstaller.
- jinushaun 3y ago
  There are a lot of improvements in 11, but for me, the bad outweighs the good. My primary computer is a Mac, but my primary Windows machine runs 7 and I have 10 and 11 in VMs only for testing.
IronWolve 3y ago
Win11 has lots of handy features, the font rendering is better than win10 which makes things very nice. The only thing that really ticks me off is the toolbar, but theres many replacements to fix that issue.
- anakaine 3y ago
  You really shouldn't need to run replacements which, from an OS perspective, mean that there's a critical UI / UX failing.
  - tnecniv 3y ago
    Eh you’ll never satisfy everyone. Every major OS has UI tweak tools available from third parties
Root_Denied 3y ago
The fact that you have to de-bloat and strip the telemetry is really at odds with saying Win11 is a "good" operating system. Enjoy things that are bad, nothing wrong with that, but don't try to convince that they're actually good.
- xboxnolifes 3y ago
  You've had to debloat Windows for multiple versions now. The argument isn't Windows vs Linux here. It's windows 10 vs 11.
  - Root_Denied 3y ago
    No, the argument was whether Win11 is "good" or not - that's independent of whether Win10 is "good" (or better), or whether some flavor of Linux is better than either one.
Koshkin 3y ago
> shutup10 "Microsoft Partner"

kreeben 3y ago

>> fully uninstall Cortana >> disable the extra sneaky telemetry and privacy nightmares Does that require a rinse and repeat at every monthly Windows Update?

II2II 3y ago

The article isn't very critical of Windows 11. It simply points out that many consumers didn't feel like it was a compelling upgrade if it meant upgrading their computer as well. Then you have the usual inertia with Windows. This isn't the first time Microsoft has put out a less than compelling upgrade.

anakaine 3y ago
As a rule of thumb, every second release is a turd. Windows 8 was a turd. Windows 10 was quite good. Windows 11 seems to walk, talk, and smell like a turd.

freitzkriesler2 3y ago

I too like windows 11. From a UX perspective it's much better than Windows 10. Chop out the unnecessary bits and it's a solid contender.

bigstrat2003 3y ago
What makes Win11 bad is precisely those unnecessary bits, though. Sure, Win11 is perfectly fine if you take the time to de-crapify it. But the point is that your OS should not come with crapware out of the box! Windows used to not need that, and there's no excuse for MS adding all the consumer hostile crap they have added in recent years.
- Kye 3y ago
  In practice, for most people who had an OEM install, it did. Now the crapware is standard, which makes automated removal tools viable. This is an improvement over googling processes you didn't recognize to see if it had an uninstaller.
jinushaun 3y ago
There are a lot of improvements in 11, but for me, the bad outweighs the good. My primary computer is a Mac, but my primary Windows machine runs 7 and I have 10 and 11 in VMs only for testing.

IronWolve 3y ago

Win11 has lots of handy features, the font rendering is better than win10 which makes things very nice. The only thing that really ticks me off is the toolbar, but theres many replacements to fix that issue.

anakaine 3y ago
You really shouldn't need to run replacements which, from an OS perspective, mean that there's a critical UI / UX failing.
- tnecniv 3y ago
  Eh you’ll never satisfy everyone. Every major OS has UI tweak tools available from third parties

Root_Denied 3y ago

The fact that you have to de-bloat and strip the telemetry is really at odds with saying Win11 is a "good" operating system. Enjoy things that are bad, nothing wrong with that, but don't try to convince that they're actually good.

xboxnolifes 3y ago
You've had to debloat Windows for multiple versions now. The argument isn't Windows vs Linux here. It's windows 10 vs 11.
- Root_Denied 3y ago
  No, the argument was whether Win11 is "good" or not - that's independent of whether Win10 is "good" (or better), or whether some flavor of Linux is better than either one.

Koshkin 3y ago

> shutup10 "Microsoft Partner"