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Yeah, so I don't have a problem with a personal blog where a person posts about what interest them. I just don't see a good reason for it to be at the top of H

Yeah, so I don't have a problem with a personal blog where a person posts about what interest them. I just don't see a good reason for it to be at the top of HN.

Vektorceraptor 3y ago
Yes, I see that there are certain demands here. I'm new here and I thought this site was actually free. But I guess I need to adjust my expectations. I think that if you want to expect a certain standard of conversation, then you either have to make the page private or have discussions with real people in person, ideally with your friends. But as soon as you go public and demand that people adapt to your own content standards, then you distort the discourse on a very deep and fundamental level. You can neither educate people to be elitists, nor does the desire for it justify the karma evaluations that you automatically have to subject yourself to. I think you could view HN as a fishing pond and fish selected voices privately to another private platform if you are really serious about high quality content.
- jonnycomputer 3y ago
  The conversation in the blog post presumes a certain shared understanding of the facts. When you push a conversation out of a context of shared assumptions or understandings, then you are going to have to expect push back. I don't think that says anything bad about HN here. All you are getting is feedback on what a large segment of people think. In some alternative world they may have agreed with those background beliefs, and then the pushback would not have occurred (or it might have pointed in another direction). If the article had approached its central question--whether to tell people or not--by first saying something like "suppose that we knew the civilization is going to collapse in the next ten years, the question arises: should we tell people?", it could have avoided more of the pushback it received.

Yeah, so I don't have a problem with a personal blog where a person posts about what interest them. I just don't see a good reason for it to be at the top of HN.

Vektorceraptor 3y ago

Yes, I see that there are certain demands here. I'm new here and I thought this site was actually free. But I guess I need to adjust my expectations. I think that if you want to expect a certain standard of conversation, then you either have to make the page private or have discussions with real people in person, ideally with your friends. But as soon as you go public and demand that people adapt to your own content standards, then you distort the discourse on a very deep and fundamental level. You can neither educate people to be elitists, nor does the desire for it justify the karma evaluations that you automatically have to subject yourself to. I think you could view HN as a fishing pond and fish selected voices privately to another private platform if you are really serious about high quality content.

jonnycomputer 3y ago
The conversation in the blog post presumes a certain shared understanding of the facts. When you push a conversation out of a context of shared assumptions or understandings, then you are going to have to expect push back. I don't think that says anything bad about HN here. All you are getting is feedback on what a large segment of people think. In some alternative world they may have agreed with those background beliefs, and then the pushback would not have occurred (or it might have pointed in another direction). If the article had approached its central question--whether to tell people or not--by first saying something like "suppose that we knew the civilization is going to collapse in the next ten years, the question arises: should we tell people?", it could have avoided more of the pushback it received.