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Because hotjar and other such things are incredibly invasive?
by mortallywounded 3y ago
Because hotjar and other such things are incredibly invasive?
- satvikpendem 3y agoWell, it's my site and I can host whatever (legal) content I want on it, it's akin to having cameras in my store. Similarly, people can choose not to visit the site.
- mortallywounded 3y agoOr more likely, all of your cameras disabled by ublock.
- satvikpendem 3y agoIt actually would be quite difficult for adblockers to block 1st party scripts if I just embed the tracking into my JS bundle. At that point the adblocker would have to deobfuscate the code and block selective parts of the JS.
- mortallywounded 3y agoOnly if you self host or proxy all of the tracking requests. Otherwise, the tracking will occur but get trapped in the browser. The moment your code tries to send the request to hotjar or any other domain, it's blocked.
- satvikpendem 3y agoYes, hence why I said in my initial comment that I'm looking for a self hosted version, mostly because Hotjar is bloated and has unnecessary amounts of extraneous JS that slows down the page.
- crtasm 3y agoEmbedding intrusive tracking code that is invisible to the average user is not akin to a visible camera in a store, at all.
- satvikpendem 3y agoHow is it different? Cameras can be invisible in a store too and often are.
- crtasm 3y agoIt's a common understanding that CCTV exists. It's not a common understanding that this level of user tracking is happening. and being in public visiting a store vs reading a website in the privacy of your own home are clearly very different situations.
- satvikpendem 3y agoMaybe it's not commonly understood but that is what is happening regardless. Being at home when reading content versus in public doesn't make any analogical sense because the internet is not a physical space, so it should have no bearing on your expectation of privacy if you visit someone else's site.
- crtasm 3y agoIt's your anology about shopping in a store -vs- reading the web [anywhere, including in private]. >but that is what is happening regardless So the justification is "everyone else is doing it" - OK.
- satvikpendem 3y agoSame with cameras in stores then, there is no expectation of privacy when entering a store, and similarly, there is none when visiting someone's server and website.