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If earth suddenly had to be evacuated and I was limited to grabbing the ten best people to save, [Bill] Watterson would definitely be in there. There is a point

by gyomu 3y ago

If earth suddenly had to be evacuated and I was limited to grabbing the ten best people to save, [Bill] Watterson would definitely be in there. There is a point where you stop rating people — you just rate them among the best. Can I say that Mozart is better than the Beatles? I can’t. I can just say that they both have gone above the cloud layer and are up there near the sun. They both are on that short list of things that are essential. Watterson is an essential. — Brad Bird, Academy Award-winning director of Ratatouille and The Incredibles

AtlasBarfed 3y ago
The Beatles are vastly overrated and will die off with the boomers.
- Apocryphon 3y ago
  The Beach Boys 4 eva
- Tao3300 3y ago
  I'm a Xennial and I love the Beatles. I can't think of anyone I know my age who doesn't. My kids love them. Even if the Boomers were peak Beatles they aren't going anywhere for a while.
- polotics 3y ago
  Can you quantify this assessment? What are the dimensions?
  - Tao3300 3y ago
    They can't. It's a pizza cutter comment. All edge and no point.
  - AtlasBarfed 3y ago
    They're a bunch of nice pop songs that came from an era where strong label control meant little creativity. Sure they defeated this system, but it's not like this is some grand revolution. Take Led Zeppelin, who basically spawned an entire subgenre of rock and roll. What genre did the Beatles spawn? What new vibe or style did they introduce? Just a bunch of pop songs. Even their druggie stuff really isn't that great. In terms of sophistication, is it any of the classical masters? No. It was remarkable given the desert of creativity it appeared in. Are they better than Jazz masters or the like? I'd say no. Were the Beatles at the forefront of leading a cultural revolution, a fundamental political shift? Sure they were part of the hippy culture, but are the associated with strident antiwar, communal living, or extreme free love? There are many other 60s acts you can point to as more influential. Christ, even U2 has a more coherent origin story and central focus around antiwar and activism, as bubble gum as their variant is. The tension in the band isn't even interesting. Just people making bank from pop success and arguing over attribution. The schisms were bland, not even really about ideology. Just ... credit. When I hear them now on the radio, when I hear them on the radio, it's not like I change the station, but I don't turn up the volume. In the end, they are a pop band that sold a lot of records. Ok, maybe I turn it up for Elenor Rigby, but just a bit.

by gyomu 3y ago

AtlasBarfed 3y ago

The Beatles are vastly overrated and will die off with the boomers.

Apocryphon 3y ago
The Beach Boys 4 eva
Tao3300 3y ago
I'm a Xennial and I love the Beatles. I can't think of anyone I know my age who doesn't. My kids love them. Even if the Boomers were peak Beatles they aren't going anywhere for a while.
polotics 3y ago
Can you quantify this assessment? What are the dimensions?
- Tao3300 3y ago
  They can't. It's a pizza cutter comment. All edge and no point.
- AtlasBarfed 3y ago
  They're a bunch of nice pop songs that came from an era where strong label control meant little creativity. Sure they defeated this system, but it's not like this is some grand revolution. Take Led Zeppelin, who basically spawned an entire subgenre of rock and roll. What genre did the Beatles spawn? What new vibe or style did they introduce? Just a bunch of pop songs. Even their druggie stuff really isn't that great. In terms of sophistication, is it any of the classical masters? No. It was remarkable given the desert of creativity it appeared in. Are they better than Jazz masters or the like? I'd say no. Were the Beatles at the forefront of leading a cultural revolution, a fundamental political shift? Sure they were part of the hippy culture, but are the associated with strident antiwar, communal living, or extreme free love? There are many other 60s acts you can point to as more influential. Christ, even U2 has a more coherent origin story and central focus around antiwar and activism, as bubble gum as their variant is. The tension in the band isn't even interesting. Just people making bank from pop success and arguing over attribution. The schisms were bland, not even really about ideology. Just ... credit. When I hear them now on the radio, when I hear them on the radio, it's not like I change the station, but I don't turn up the volume. In the end, they are a pop band that sold a lot of records. Ok, maybe I turn it up for Elenor Rigby, but just a bit.