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No that's completely wrong and is a lie that keeps being repeated. Life expectancy has increased at all ages: https://ourworldindata.org/its-not-just-about-chi

No that's completely wrong and is a lie that keeps being repeated. Life expectancy has increased at all ages: https://ourworldindata.org/its-not-just-about-child-mortality-life-expectancy-improved-at-all-ages https://ourworldindata.org/its-not-just-about-child-mortalit... and "Excluding child mortality, the average life expectancy during the 12th–19th centuries was approximately 55 years." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy

antisthenes 3y ago
The difference being that reduced mortality at age 60 adds mostly unproductive years, while reduced mortality at age 0-1 adds mostly productive years.
- j4yav 3y ago
  But how does that make it completely wrong and a lie?
  - antisthenes 3y ago
    Well, since I didn't say that, maybe you can enlighten us since you brought it up?
    - j4yav 3y ago
      The original comment said that every generation lives longer than the one that came before, and then gp said that that was a lie that keeps being repeated and is only infant mortality improving. Someone then replied with data showing that life expectancy is getting longer even setting aside infant mortality, to which you replied that the difference was that reduced mortality at age 60 adds mostly unproductive years, while reduced mortality at age 0-1 adds mostly productive years. My question was how that has any bearing on the question in this thread of whether or not people are living longer? It wasn't clear to me at least without more info. Or maybe it was just an unrelated tangent. But that lack of clarity is why I asked.
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- jodrellblank 3y ago
  Only if you consider a population of perfectly spherical massless wallets.
  - aaomidi 3y ago
    In Our entire system of economy practically does. Like, it’s distasteful and I hate it and it’s one of the reasons I hate capitalism. Your worth is your labor. Nothing more.
- pc86 3y ago
  "Productive" in the most cynical and heartless definition of the word, perhaps. Plenty of 70- and 80-somethings live active, rewarding lives. "You've stopped contributing to the economy, it's time for you to die now" is a disgusting attitude that we should not tolerate as a society.
  - lolinder 3y ago
    Also, as the article rather eloquently points out, elderly retired people continue to the economy in many ways, just not by drawing a salary. They spend plenty of money, provide free child care for people who are still working, volunteer, work part time...

antisthenes 3y ago

The difference being that reduced mortality at age 60 adds mostly unproductive years, while reduced mortality at age 0-1 adds mostly productive years.

j4yav 3y ago
But how does that make it completely wrong and a lie?
- antisthenes 3y ago
  Well, since I didn't say that, maybe you can enlighten us since you brought it up?
  - j4yav 3y ago
    The original comment said that every generation lives longer than the one that came before, and then gp said that that was a lie that keeps being repeated and is only infant mortality improving. Someone then replied with data showing that life expectancy is getting longer even setting aside infant mortality, to which you replied that the difference was that reduced mortality at age 60 adds mostly unproductive years, while reduced mortality at age 0-1 adds mostly productive years. My question was how that has any bearing on the question in this thread of whether or not people are living longer? It wasn't clear to me at least without more info. Or maybe it was just an unrelated tangent. But that lack of clarity is why I asked.
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jodrellblank 3y ago
Only if you consider a population of perfectly spherical massless wallets.
- aaomidi 3y ago
  In Our entire system of economy practically does. Like, it’s distasteful and I hate it and it’s one of the reasons I hate capitalism. Your worth is your labor. Nothing more.
pc86 3y ago
"Productive" in the most cynical and heartless definition of the word, perhaps. Plenty of 70- and 80-somethings live active, rewarding lives. "You've stopped contributing to the economy, it's time for you to die now" is a disgusting attitude that we should not tolerate as a society.
- lolinder 3y ago
  Also, as the article rather eloquently points out, elderly retired people continue to the economy in many ways, just not by drawing a salary. They spend plenty of money, provide free child care for people who are still working, volunteer, work part time...