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> as for tooling the ease of writing Ruby outweigh anything else Your team mates probably object to that ease of writing, as they did for Perl 20 years ago.

by oblio 3y ago

vidarh 3y ago
Whether you write unreadable code or not is not a function of language. This is a lazy attempt at criticism. My preference for Ruby is in part because reading and understanding well written Ruby is a joy compared to every other of the dozens of languages I've used.
- cloudoogie 3y ago
  And since (un)readable code is not a function of language, you cannot state in your next sentence that reading well written Ruby is joy in comparison with other languages.
  - vidarh 3y ago
    Of course I can. There is no contradiction there. You can write readable code in any language, even assembly, but that does not mean well written code in a language that is also particularly readable won't be more of a joy to read than well written code in a verbose or hard to read language.
- oblio 3y ago
  The first statement is provably false, empirically, as huge systems are overwhelmingly not written in dynamically typed languages. Not all languages are created equal and some were designed to be more conducive to maintable code for large teams of developers. Ruby is not one of these languages.
  - ric2b 3y ago
    What do you mean by huge systems? Many of the largest web platforms were indeed built with dynamically types languages. And these days Javascript somehow ends up being used for almost everything you can think except an OS kernel.
  - vidarh 3y ago
    > The first statement is provably false, empirically, as huge systems are overwhelmingly not written in dynamically typed languages. Your conclusion is not supported by the claim you try to support it with. > Ruby is not one of these languages. You're free you think so, but you've not provided anything but unsupported conjecture and logically invalid reasoning to support your belief, so rather than convince me, you've provided an additional reason to question your judgement.
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> as for tooling the ease of writing Ruby outweigh anything else Your team mates probably object to that ease of writing, as they did for Perl 20 years ago.

by oblio 3y ago

> as for tooling the ease of writing Ruby outweigh anything else Your team mates probably object to that ease of writing, as they did for Perl 20 years ago.

vidarh 3y ago

Whether you write unreadable code or not is not a function of language. This is a lazy attempt at criticism. My preference for Ruby is in part because reading and understanding well written Ruby is a joy compared to every other of the dozens of languages I've used.

cloudoogie 3y ago
And since (un)readable code is not a function of language, you cannot state in your next sentence that reading well written Ruby is joy in comparison with other languages.
- vidarh 3y ago
  Of course I can. There is no contradiction there. You can write readable code in any language, even assembly, but that does not mean well written code in a language that is also particularly readable won't be more of a joy to read than well written code in a verbose or hard to read language.
oblio 3y ago
The first statement is provably false, empirically, as huge systems are overwhelmingly not written in dynamically typed languages. Not all languages are created equal and some were designed to be more conducive to maintable code for large teams of developers. Ruby is not one of these languages.
- ric2b 3y ago
  What do you mean by huge systems? Many of the largest web platforms were indeed built with dynamically types languages. And these days Javascript somehow ends up being used for almost everything you can think except an OS kernel.
- vidarh 3y ago
  > The first statement is provably false, empirically, as huge systems are overwhelmingly not written in dynamically typed languages. Your conclusion is not supported by the claim you try to support it with. > Ruby is not one of these languages. You're free you think so, but you've not provided anything but unsupported conjecture and logically invalid reasoning to support your belief, so rather than convince me, you've provided an additional reason to question your judgement.

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