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Israeli intelligence is likely spending virtually no resources at all on influencing narratives. And if they are, they are failing spectacularly. More likely,

Israeli intelligence is likely spending virtually no resources at all on influencing narratives. And if they are, they are failing spectacularly. More likely, the ministry of the exterior, the IDF spokesperson office, and civilian operations are trying to influence narratives. From what I can tell these other efforts are not doing so well either.

cf1241290841 3y ago
I think you are wrong on both parts. Cognitive / Narrative warfare has become part of standard doctrine for most major militaries. Earlier discussion about "corporate" spin offs from the intelligence sector. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34803779 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34803779 Looking how many countries backed the current Israeli government for how long despite targeting the civilian population, as well as stuff like OP on most major platforms they seem to be horrifically effective.
- underdeserver 3y ago
  Hyperlocal public opinion bot campaigns in third world countries are different from swaying public opinion in the west. I would not say any governments other than the US government "back" the Israeli government. The most the Israelis get is a cold neutrality, and an occasional abstention instead of yea vote in the many UN general assembly votes against Israel.
  - cf1241290841 3y ago
    >I would not say any governments other than the US government "back" the Israeli government. The situation in Germany is really bad. Openly illegal bad. It seems to be similar in large parts of the EU, despite countries like Ireland showing some backbone. Ruling politicians are using "obviously illegal means" (according to court ruling after court ruling) to silence and prosecute opposition to crimes against humanity. Going as far as police dragging away people with signs pointing to statements from UN officials. Its "Neighboring countries should be worried" levels of bad here. I told what is happening here to an old friend who did his time in the Swiss military as an analyst and i am unable to contact him since.

cf1241290841 3y ago

I think you are wrong on both parts. Cognitive / Narrative warfare has become part of standard doctrine for most major militaries. Earlier discussion about "corporate" spin offs from the intelligence sector. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34803779 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34803779 Looking how many countries backed the current Israeli government for how long despite targeting the civilian population, as well as stuff like OP on most major platforms they seem to be horrifically effective.

underdeserver 3y ago
Hyperlocal public opinion bot campaigns in third world countries are different from swaying public opinion in the west. I would not say any governments other than the US government "back" the Israeli government. The most the Israelis get is a cold neutrality, and an occasional abstention instead of yea vote in the many UN general assembly votes against Israel.
- cf1241290841 3y ago
  >I would not say any governments other than the US government "back" the Israeli government. The situation in Germany is really bad. Openly illegal bad. It seems to be similar in large parts of the EU, despite countries like Ireland showing some backbone. Ruling politicians are using "obviously illegal means" (according to court ruling after court ruling) to silence and prosecute opposition to crimes against humanity. Going as far as police dragging away people with signs pointing to statements from UN officials. Its "Neighboring countries should be worried" levels of bad here. I told what is happening here to an old friend who did his time in the Swiss military as an analyst and i am unable to contact him since.