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It's not just a word; you can look at his record of attempting to overthrow democracy (regarding January 6). If overthrowing democracy is no longer considered
by o11c 3y ago
It's not just a word; you can look at his record of attempting to overthrow democracy (regarding January 6).
If overthrowing democracy is no longer considered extremist, what is?
- koolba 3y ago[flagged]
- kevingadd 3y agoAccusing Pelosi of conduct equivalent to January 6 is blatantly disingenuous, regardless of your political feelings.
- koolba 3y ago[flagged]
- the_gastropod 3y agoI don’t recall Pelosi doing that. Have a source?
- koolba 3y agoStraight from the horse’s mouth: https://rumble.com/vs7r3v-flashback-pelosi-objects-to-counting-ohio-electoral-votes.html https://rumble.com/vs7r3v-flashback-pelosi-objects-to-counti...
- the_gastropod 3y agoFalse equivalence. She literally said “this is not to challenge the result of the election. George Bush won the election, and that is not in dispute” Further, her reason for doing this was to bring attention to actual voter disenfranchisement [1]. Comparing this to perpetuating obviously fabricated fraud claims with the sole intent of overturning the election is nothing short of absurd. [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ohio-s-voter-purges-were-upheld-supreme-court-doesn-t-ncna882146 https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ohio-s-voter-purges-we...
- koolba 3y agoIt’s exactly the same thing as both boil down to objecting to the certification of a State’s electors due to concerns about the electoral process. The “why” is completely irrelevant and claiming one is some heroic noble pursuit is laughable. I’ll ask again, what exactly did Zeldin do that Pelosi did not? Both exercised their right to speak out and either neither is in the wrong, or it’s the usual case of double standards.
- the_gastropod 3y agoThey’re exactly the same in the sense that pinching someone and shooting someone in the head are exactly the same: inexcusable violent acts.
- kernal 3y ago[flagged]
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 3y ago[flagged]
- kortilla 3y agoWere they charged with treason?
- ceejayoz 3y agoInsurrection and treason are very different things.
- kortilla 3y agoIndeed, one of them is the same as any violent protest against the government. Another is a real threat.
- ceejayoz 3y agoNo; treason - as narrowly defined in the US - requires work with/for external enemies. Attacking Congress in hopes of installing King Charles would be treasonous; doing it to install Trump is not. Insurrection and seditious conspiracy remain somewhat different than boring old disorderly conduct and assault charges.
- kortilla 3y agoNo, many people were charged with treason during the civil war, which was definitely not external forces.
- ceejayoz 3y agoThe Confederacy, post succession, was very much an external force "levying war against the United States". Trump's insurrectionists, whatever you think of them, weren't. American jurisprudence has also come a ways since the 1860s.
- junofan 3y agoNever even heard of this guy despite living in New York. Tuned out last couple elections. I think it’s better we all move on from this kind of super-divisive rhetoric because eight years later, nobody’s listening. It’s not moving the country forward. Looks like he’s a reservist in the Army—I trust their disciplinary process. I just don’t see how any of this is relevant to the issue of noncompetes in New York. I find the Governor’s position very reasonable for the industries in this state—above a certain level, people can negotiate for themselves.
- chasil 3y agoThis is his wiki. There are a few things that surprised me, but I know far more extreme positions than his on both sides. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Zeldin https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Zeldin
- kevin_thibedeau 3y agoNo election denier is fit for public service. That is an automatic disqualifier.
- hedora 3y agoIt’s pretty sad that so many candidates should obviously be disqualified for sedition these days, and also that the law isn’t being enforced against them.
- chasil 3y agoHow do you feel about the lateset Rasmussen poll? "21 percent of mail-in voters admitted they filled out a ballot for a friend or family member; 19 percent of mail-in voters admitted that a friend or family member filled out a ballot on their behalf; 17 percent of mail-in voters admitted they voted in a state where they were no longer a permanent resident; and 17 percent of mail-in voters said they signed a ballot for a friend or family member with or without his or her permission." https://www.theblaze.com/columns/opinion/new-poll-finds-rampant-mail-in-voting-fraud-in-the-2020-election https://www.theblaze.com/columns/opinion/new-poll-finds-ramp...
- MiguelX413 3y agoNor is it a particularly bad word. I'm an extremist, who cares?
- newsclues 3y ago[flagged]
- kernal 3y ago[flagged]
- newsclues 3y agoIn a country full of guns, why were they notably absent an apparent extremist insurrection to overthrow democracy (and certainly not the deep state)? Surely the crazy people overthrowing the government would have guns right?
- epakai 3y agoJan 6 purpose was to distract and delay. You're forgetting other plans in action that were to eventually deny the actual election outcome. Multiple state level officials were pushed on, VP Pence was pressured, and slates of fake electors were formed in an attempt to force a different outcome. The insurrection itself may not have been an out-and-out coup, but that it can still be an attempt to overthrow democracy.
- newsclues 3y ago[flagged]