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"Natural right" means a right with a sound fundamental philosophical justification behind it, it doesn't mean "natural" in the sense of "something people do nat
by logicchains 3y ago
"Natural right" means a right with a sound fundamental philosophical justification behind it, it doesn't mean "natural" in the sense of "something people do naturally". People by nature are often savages; learning to respect the rights of other people, and not just see them as tools for us to impose our own will upon, is part of the challenge of human moral development.
- atticora 3y agoI'm in favor of human moral development through means such as free speech. But "a sound fundamental philosophical justification" doesn't appear to have any meaning, or rather can mean anything to anyone. It can envelop humanity's destruction as easily as its flourishing, depending on where your identity lies. I'd like to be able to deploy "natural" in defense of free speech, but I've found no substance to it. No premise beyond a personal value judgement, which I happen to share. So I default to appeals to utility.
- logicchains 3y ago>. But "a sound fundamental philosophical justification" doesn't appear to have any meanin You're saying the entirety of moral philosophy has no meaning so people should just do whatever they feels like, that's a pretty barbaric position. >So I default to appeals to utility Utility also relies on a philosophical justification; if you throw out all philosophy, you also throw out utilitarianism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_rights_and_legal_rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_rights_and_legal_right...