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Say a Dan Brown book enters the public domain. Then every Dan Brown book enters the public domain, as he uses more or less the same structure for every book, wi
by tomrod 3y ago
Say a Dan Brown book enters the public domain. Then every Dan Brown book enters the public domain, as he uses more or less the same structure for every book, with different details.
Gonna be a messy time when we catch up to that can down the road.
- gedy 3y agoThis. Many people act as if copyright is eternal and never expiring and that fair use does not exist, but that is not (or was not) the intention. They have time limits, and fair use mean you can use content without permission and in ways the creator "did not intend". And to your point, we cannot copyright style, only the exact content itself.
- jncfhnb 3y agoThat’s just so dumb though. You can write a book “like Dan brown” and it’s fine. It’s absolute nonsense to imply that ai can’t generate something unless there’s something similar enough that’s open. Anyone can claim that a book is like another book because that’s a dumb and pointlessly subjective metric.
- tomrod 3y agoI'm not sure how you inferred "metric" from my comment, only that Dan Brown's scaffolding was apparent when I read three or four of his novels in quick succession. Such patterns are equivalent to artists' signature techniques and lend themselves to transfer learning, like generating an image in the style of starry night. This is more one-shot examples versus measurement or a loss function.
- jncfhnb 3y agoYou said if one book enters public domain then every book effectively enters public domain from a plausible deniability angle of using the one relevant book. But that makes no sense at all. Because anyone can write a book in the style of Dan Brown without infringing on his IP. You don’t need Starry Night to teach a model to make works like Starry Night. You just need a work like Starry Night. And if you want to argue that the machine can learn style better than humans for text, then how is this ever going to hold up in court as “too similar to the style”?
- happytiger 3y agoThe copyright system has been broken for a long time. AI is just making the system’s inadequacy more obvious. Just look at YouTube copyright strike and understand how screwed up the enforcement of a law like this is going to be. Tom Scott did a piece on it that’s worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU