3 ms·

"Hopefully regulators will monitor the whole situation" Which of course, they won't.

R_Symtex_II 14y ago
Oh they do, just not in the way that's beneficial to mankind, case in point: FDA and Monsanto, The ever-present revolving door between political office and Corporate boardrooms in practice. They in turn position themselves to approve and legally hold patent seeds in order to monopolize agriculture and acquisition the competition by land seizures. You can keep your vile 'meat,' I won't consume it for the same reasons I wouldn't eat a skin graft--which is essentially what this is. (Simplified overview: isolated tissue grown in the presence of certain growth factors and culture medium.) For all of you thinking this is a 'Greener' or a 'less morally taxing' way to consume meat think again; many cultures used in bio-tech contain animal byproducts like blood to maintain and first create viable cell cultures/libraries which require extensive man-hours and expensive equipment that require constant energy use. Found in the comment section; SiriusCybernetics: As someone who has done a great deal of tissue culture in the past, I would say even if the finite number of replications problem is solved (you could just grow HeLa cells - cancer cells that divide indefinitely) a much bigger problem is cost. Most mammalian cells are grown in media using FBS, Fetal Bovine Serum, which is around U.S. $1,000/liter. Non-serum media is only about U.S. $400/liter. Feed the cells twice daily with that until you have your 3,000 pellets of cells and you will have one hell of an expensive miniature steak on your plate, $10,000+/pound before labor and processing. It can be done, but nature does it so much better. And yes, Fetal Bovine Serum is what it sounds like, serum squashed out of cattle fetuses. How that works out as better for the animal world escapes me somehow. Private livestock husbandry, by contrast, is exponentially greater at achieving both aims as it coincides and is regulated by a living and breathing ecosystem found in Nature. The same goes for animal cloning, its far beyond my mind to find reason in the practice other than to create a greater financial black hole (often tax funded) and call it 'progress.' How many will be swept by nationalist fervor when the NIH successfully fund the creation of the first batch of 'Dolly Steaks'?

Oh they do, just not in the way that's beneficial to mankind, case in point: FDA and Monsanto, The ever-present revolving door between political office and Corporate boardrooms in practice. They in turn position themselves to approve and legally hold patent seeds in order to monopolize agriculture and acquisition the competition by land seizures. You can keep your vile 'meat,' I won't consume it for the same reasons I wouldn't eat a skin graft--which is essentially what this is. (Simplified overview: isolated tissue grown in the presence of certain growth factors and culture medium.) For all of you thinking this is a 'Greener' or a 'less morally taxing' way to consume meat think again; many cultures used in bio-tech contain animal byproducts like blood to maintain and first create viable cell cultures/libraries which require extensive man-hours and expensive equipment that require constant energy use. Found in the comment section; SiriusCybernetics: As someone who has done a great deal of tissue culture in the past, I would say even if the finite number of replications problem is solved (you could just grow HeLa cells - cancer cells that divide indefinitely) a much bigger problem is cost. Most mammalian cells are grown in media using FBS, Fetal Bovine Serum, which is around U.S. $1,000/liter. Non-serum media is only about U.S. $400/liter. Feed the cells twice daily with that until you have your 3,000 pellets of cells and you will have one hell of an expensive miniature steak on your plate, $10,000+/pound before labor and processing. It can be done, but nature does it so much better. And yes, Fetal Bovine Serum is what it sounds like, serum squashed out of cattle fetuses. How that works out as better for the animal world escapes me somehow. Private livestock husbandry, by contrast, is exponentially greater at achieving both aims as it coincides and is regulated by a living and breathing ecosystem found in Nature. The same goes for animal cloning, its far beyond my mind to find reason in the practice other than to create a greater financial black hole (often tax funded) and call it 'progress.' How many will be swept by nationalist fervor when the NIH successfully fund the creation of the first batch of 'Dolly Steaks'?