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This does make a certain sense, but be careful of: * Police incentives are set by wealthy elites might be "Higher policed areas are wealthier" or just "Weathie

This does make a certain sense, but be careful of: * Police incentives are set by wealthy elites might be "Higher policed areas are wealthier" or just "Weathier areas are full of people who commit less petty crime / visible violent crime that would be deterred by patrols" * "Criminals are evenly sprinkled across income distributions" might actually be that Conscientiousness is highly correlated with lifetime earnings AND Conscientiousness is negatively correlated with lifetime convictions There's tons of conflicting arrows, nothing is settled, but there sure are lots of political reasons to assume it's a clear case.

steveBK123 3y ago
> "Higher policed areas are wealthier" And yet, in places like NYC, the complaint from many activists is the opposite - that poor people get arrested more because its the poorer areas with more policing. A simple example in NYC is turnstile jumping. The people willing to risk a ticket/police engagement over a $2.90 fare are likely not high income. Yes you do see it even in higher income areas but not at nearly the same rate. Ride a train that goes through rich and poor neighborhoods and spend 10 minutes at the turnstiles of each.. the disparity is huge. Some argue it's unfair that people have to pay the fare and it should just be free. To me it seems like moving the goalposts on what we consider crime. There's already programs for reduced fairs for students, elderly, and low income. There's plenty of other examples of this behavior.
- 2devnull 3y ago
  >” And yet, in places like NYC, the complaint from many activists is the opposite - that poor people get arrested more because it’s the poorer areas with more policing.” Couldn’t both things be true? Could different cities and police departments have differing contexts, differing problems?
- jvanderbot 3y ago
  I think we're circling around the well known correlation between conscientousness and lifetime earnings. A conscientious person is more likely to follow rules and procedures by definition and also more likely to earn money as shown by research.

steveBK123 3y ago

> "Higher policed areas are wealthier" And yet, in places like NYC, the complaint from many activists is the opposite - that poor people get arrested more because its the poorer areas with more policing. A simple example in NYC is turnstile jumping. The people willing to risk a ticket/police engagement over a $2.90 fare are likely not high income. Yes you do see it even in higher income areas but not at nearly the same rate. Ride a train that goes through rich and poor neighborhoods and spend 10 minutes at the turnstiles of each.. the disparity is huge. Some argue it's unfair that people have to pay the fare and it should just be free. To me it seems like moving the goalposts on what we consider crime. There's already programs for reduced fairs for students, elderly, and low income. There's plenty of other examples of this behavior.

2devnull 3y ago
>” And yet, in places like NYC, the complaint from many activists is the opposite - that poor people get arrested more because it’s the poorer areas with more policing.” Couldn’t both things be true? Could different cities and police departments have differing contexts, differing problems?
jvanderbot 3y ago
I think we're circling around the well known correlation between conscientousness and lifetime earnings. A conscientious person is more likely to follow rules and procedures by definition and also more likely to earn money as shown by research.