> every popular home computer came with a BASIC builtin, Until the Mac put the kibosh on that. You were firmly on the outside of the box, and to get in you had

> every popular home computer came with a BASIC builtin, Until the Mac put the kibosh on that. You were firmly on the outside of the box, and to get in you had to buy either a box of floppies from Apple (MDW, was it?) or something like Lightning C which was just a couple of disks if memory serves. Later there was the Hypercard thing, a scripting tool from Apple which did get some traction, but was never very popular.