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I went to vocational school for Software Engineering and then university. Both paths took ~5 years each. Only course I ever had that covered this topic, along w

by rcbdev 3y ago

I went to vocational school for Software Engineering and then university. Both paths took ~5 years each. Only course I ever had that covered this topic, along with proper DB sharding, was at vocational school. I suspect this is because the instructors had practical as opposed to academic experience. This points to a larger problem where university curricula aren't decided by who actually has the most practical experience. At least in Europe, Software Engineering university curricula seem very dry and obsessed with formalisms across the board.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
That vocational school sounds really cool though!
- rcbdev 3y ago
  For engineering-related subjects they're called HTL (engl. "Higher Institutes of Technical Education") and they represent a pillar of Austria's dual education system. Our school system is rather complex[1] but allows for students to get their university entrance qualification ("Matura") while also getting vocational training in their respective engineering subject (in my case Software Engineering) and also some training in business - i.e. filing taxes as a business, etc. These schools also exist for many other fields (Forestry - HLFS, Nursery - HLSP, etc.) and statistically speaking these days a little over half of Austrians who get their university entrance qualification get it from one of these schools (BHS) or another type of vocational school (BS) rather than traditional non-vocational high schools (AHS). Rather unfortunately, while people who complete these schools are very in demand inside of Austria, outside of our little nation people don't really understand the system - So people who want to leave for other countries often go through the motions of getting a degree in their subject anyways. People recognize "M.Sc." more than "Ing.". (Ing. being the title conferred after graduating such a HTL and working in the industry for a while) TLDR: Austria has a developed system of vocational schools for all types of subjects. [1] https://national-policies.eacea.ec.europa.eu/sites/default/files/2021-06/Austrian%20educational%20system%20graph.pdf https://national-policies.eacea.ec.europa.eu/sites/default/f...

by rcbdev 3y ago

Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago

That vocational school sounds really cool though!

rcbdev 3y ago
For engineering-related subjects they're called HTL (engl. "Higher Institutes of Technical Education") and they represent a pillar of Austria's dual education system. Our school system is rather complex[1] but allows for students to get their university entrance qualification ("Matura") while also getting vocational training in their respective engineering subject (in my case Software Engineering) and also some training in business - i.e. filing taxes as a business, etc. These schools also exist for many other fields (Forestry - HLFS, Nursery - HLSP, etc.) and statistically speaking these days a little over half of Austrians who get their university entrance qualification get it from one of these schools (BHS) or another type of vocational school (BS) rather than traditional non-vocational high schools (AHS). Rather unfortunately, while people who complete these schools are very in demand inside of Austria, outside of our little nation people don't really understand the system - So people who want to leave for other countries often go through the motions of getting a degree in their subject anyways. People recognize "M.Sc." more than "Ing.". (Ing. being the title conferred after graduating such a HTL and working in the industry for a while) TLDR: Austria has a developed system of vocational schools for all types of subjects. [1] https://national-policies.eacea.ec.europa.eu/sites/default/files/2021-06/Austrian%20educational%20system%20graph.pdf https://national-policies.eacea.ec.europa.eu/sites/default/f...