Clearly neither of those two things directly contradict my claim that Apple refused binary formats. It's weird that you would even say that. My source is I was

Clearly neither of those two things directly contradict my claim that Apple refused binary formats. It's weird that you would even say that. My source is I was in the meetings where Apple refused binary IR. Man, you're going to make me look up the meeting notes, aren't you? OK, I found what I believe are the most relevant meeting notes [1]. Unfortunately the meeting notes are not a straight transcript and not everything that was said is in there verbatim. There were also side discussions not captured at all. The meeting notes say "Apple would strongly prefer a text-based language to a binary one". This is really an understatement of their position on the matter, and the notes don't capture the most contentious arguments well. But you can at least see in the notes that Apple was arguing strenuously against binary formats generically, even more so than SPIR-V itself in this meeting, going as far as arguing that a hypothetical SPIR-V assembly in text format would be better than SPIR-V in binary form. [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CmKo59tjZwmePVrFpHpIG0W5shKR_GOrnNuMStPCEko/edit https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CmKo59tjZwmePVrFpHpIG0W5...