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> 'don't be violent' The only evidence for this is heresay by the prosecutors. > 'don't stalk and terrorize women' As has been pointed out by others in this

> 'don't be violent' The only evidence for this is heresay by the prosecutors. > 'don't stalk and terrorize women' As has been pointed out by others in this thread, that was a different person. Go read the article again. > 'don't run a doxxing website' You've got me there. But I don't think that comes even close to justifying an indefinite sentance. > 'don't extort and steal' Yeah, he shouldn't have done that. But as I said before, it does not at all justify an indefinite sentance. > The guy stands up in court and basically says 'yeah I don't have any remorse and I'm gonna keep doing it because I don't think it's wrong' - why do we need to try and understand that more? That is completely false. He is never quoted as saying anything to that effect. Rather, this is the closest thing we get: > A mental health assessment used as part of the sentencing hearing said he "continued to express the intent to return to cyber-crime as soon as possible. He is highly motivated." Perhaps the question should be what about cyber-crime he is motivated by. There is no indication that the motivation is anything malicious. It may be thrill that he is motivated by. If that's the case, it should be treated as an struggle with addiction, not evil.

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I just sense we're never going to reach an agreement here. My opinion, in short, is that people exist who simply thrive on chaos and drama. If you've met a person like that or have one of them as a member of your family, you understand. You understand that the power to destroy and create drama gives them a thrill that literally nothing else will ever come close to. You can't treat it, it's very hard to redirect (literally the _exact same activities_ will bore them if the outcome is positive rather than negative) and you can't reliably use them as part of a 'red team' because the first thing they'll destroy is the team cohesion. If you have any teachers in your family ask them 'do you think that some kids are just born wrong' and they'll tell you all about it. They've seen it.

15457345234 3y ago

I just sense we're never going to reach an agreement here. My opinion, in short, is that people exist who simply thrive on chaos and drama. If you've met a person like that or have one of them as a member of your family, you understand. You understand that the power to destroy and create drama gives them a thrill that literally nothing else will ever come close to. You can't treat it, it's very hard to redirect (literally the _exact same activities_ will bore them if the outcome is positive rather than negative) and you can't reliably use them as part of a 'red team' because the first thing they'll destroy is the team cohesion. If you have any teachers in your family ask them 'do you think that some kids are just born wrong' and they'll tell you all about it. They've seen it.