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Yeah, I haven't even bothered trying Threads (and don't plan to) Mastodon puts too much onus on the user to pick a home server Bluesky got it right by saying
by brundolf 3y ago
Yeah, I haven't even bothered trying Threads (and don't plan to)
Mastodon puts too much onus on the user to pick a home server
Bluesky got it right by saying "we're going to be exactly familiar to people who like twitter, just open and better". The concepts are an almost exact drop-in replacement, for practical purposes, other than which one your friends are active on
I don't use it much right now because most of my people did switch back for now. But I check in periodically, and I'm rooting for it to succeed
- bordercases 3y agoA nice migration story would probably help for Mastodon no? Sign-up on an "index" server, then one button to end up somewhere else?
- h0l0cube 3y agoThe problem with that is coordination. All the Mastodon servers would need to align, agree, and implement this new process. The whole point of Mastodon is that it is federated, and so consensus will ensure progress is limited to the lowest common denominator.
- bordercases 3y agoFederation works when protocols and standards are negotiated upon, and people do coordinate implicitly wherever they apply the protocol. So I'm not sure if there's anything to explain as if we're at cross purposes. Why couldn't a protocol and reference implementation exist for a client migration if servers have similar schemas for users and posts?
- cubefox 3y agoDo you know how censorship and Balkanization work on Bluesky? On Mastodon this was quite extreme, as entire servers can block each other, without any involvement from the individual user.
- echelon 3y agoThis is why p2p will always be superior to federation. I don't want others making decisions for me. I'm okay with consuming an upstream block/filter list, but I ultimately want executive control over it.
- jghn 3y agoThe thing that still grinds my gears about Mastodon is the concept of search is inherently broken. In Twitter I can search whatever and see all the old public posts from the start of time. On Mastodon, I'll get ... some stuff. With your model that wouldn't be an issue.
- caskstrength 3y agoPeople who want such experience just run their own instance.
- cubefox 3y agoNo because that doesn't solve the problem.
- BryantD 3y agoAt the moment there’s no issue because there’s still only one server. De facto I can’t imagine any federated protocol that won’t enable servers to block each other, though.
- dredmorbius 3y agoFWIW, many Fediverse instances will be / are blocking Bluesky. Some instances and individuals will block Fediverse instances which federate with Bluesky.
- cubefox 3y agoThis is so stupid. Individuals should decide whether they block something.
- JoshTriplett 3y ago> Mastodon puts too much onus on the user to pick a home server So don't. There are multiple services you can pay a small fee to to host your own instance with only you on it.
- Ombudsman 3y agoYou don't see how that's an even larger barrier to entry than just picking an existing home server?
- JoshTriplett 3y agoIt could certainly be more user-friendly than it currently is, but no, I think it's more user-friendly than having to pick a home server and worry about whether you picked well.
- anigbrowl 3y agoMastodon evangelists just don't seem to get why nobody else shares their masochistic tastes. It's not terrible if you want something highly configurable but most social media users want to chat, not federate.