3 ms·

> that's caused far more societal harm than cannabis ever did. Yes, I think this indisputably so. However, the more widely cannabis is used the greater the h

> that's caused far more societal harm than cannabis ever did. Yes, I think this indisputably so. However, the more widely cannabis is used the greater the harms seem to be.

kstrauser 3y ago
In absolute numbers, the harm from weed is increasing as more people use it. As a rate, it’s a rounding error compared to alcohol. For instance[1]: “According to the 2022 Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH), 29.5 million people ages 12 and older (10.5% in this age group) had AUD in the past year.” Compare that to[2]: “The incidence rate of cannabis-induced psychosis increased steadily from 2.8 per 100 000 person years in 2006 to 6.1 per 100 000 person years in 2016.” You’re orders of magnitude more likely to suffer harm from using alcohol than cannabis. I’m saying that as someone who enjoys the occasional drink but doesn’t use weed; I don’t have skin in the game. [1] https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-topics/alcohol-facts-and-statistics/alcohol-use-disorder-aud-united-states-age-groups-and-demographic-characteristics https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-to... [2]: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31839011/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31839011/
- jgalt212 3y ago
  Fair enough, but youths seem to overdo everything. And alcohol is one of those things you can overdo. I'm curious as to where the break-even is. e.g. one joint per day is as harmful as 2.5 beers per day.
  - kstrauser 3y ago
    Also a good point.
xzel 3y ago
You're right my local bodega has been running out of chips and cookies at an alarming rate. Things are getting dangerous out there.
nextaccountic 3y ago
this is true, but the harm is so small (at least when compared to alcohol) that it shouldn't meet any threshold for prohibition nowadays

3 ms·

> that's caused far more societal harm than cannabis ever did. Yes, I think this indisputably so. However, the more widely cannabis is used the greater the h

by jgalt212 3y ago

> that's caused far more societal harm than cannabis ever did. Yes, I think this indisputably so. However, the more widely cannabis is used the greater the harms seem to be.

kstrauser 3y ago
In absolute numbers, the harm from weed is increasing as more people use it. As a rate, it’s a rounding error compared to alcohol. For instance[1]: “According to the 2022 Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH), 29.5 million people ages 12 and older (10.5% in this age group) had AUD in the past year.” Compare that to[2]: “The incidence rate of cannabis-induced psychosis increased steadily from 2.8 per 100 000 person years in 2006 to 6.1 per 100 000 person years in 2016.” You’re orders of magnitude more likely to suffer harm from using alcohol than cannabis. I’m saying that as someone who enjoys the occasional drink but doesn’t use weed; I don’t have skin in the game. [1] https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-topics/alcohol-facts-and-statistics/alcohol-use-disorder-aud-united-states-age-groups-and-demographic-characteristics https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-to... [2]: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31839011/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31839011/
- jgalt212 3y ago
  Fair enough, but youths seem to overdo everything. And alcohol is one of those things you can overdo. I'm curious as to where the break-even is. e.g. one joint per day is as harmful as 2.5 beers per day.
  - kstrauser 3y ago
    Also a good point.
xzel 3y ago
You're right my local bodega has been running out of chips and cookies at an alarming rate. Things are getting dangerous out there.
nextaccountic 3y ago
this is true, but the harm is so small (at least when compared to alcohol) that it shouldn't meet any threshold for prohibition nowadays