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But the pardon can allow those with convictions on their record to live a normal life. Edit: major caveat, all the data harvesting and background check firms g

But the pardon can allow those with convictions on their record to live a normal life. Edit: major caveat, all the data harvesting and background check firms generally do not proactively purge their data sets as they’re supposed to. It’s your obligation to follow up with every single one of them individually, and there are a whole lot of them, they operate under the radar, and it’s hard to contact them. Finally it’s impossible to verify they actually did.

justinclift 3y ago
> Finally it’s impossible to verify they actually did. Sounds like an opportunity for someone to set up a service which does. Do the verification I mean. :)
- bmicraft 3y ago
  Sounds like an opportunity to sell snake oil, when you can't actually verify they're doing anything at all
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  Well you see, in the business of verifying someone's background it's really common to break the law and get way with it. The Verifiers are criminals themselves.
  - justinclift 3y ago
    Hmmm, it's not really immediately obvious why that would be the case. Are there some examples of this happening that you can point to? :)
leereeves 3y ago
Pardons don't expunge criminal records. Expungement is a judicial remedy that is rarely granted by the court and cannot be granted within the Department of Justice or by the President. https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions
bryanrasmussen 3y ago
>major caveat, all the data harvesting and background check firms generally do not proactively purge their data sets as they’re supposed to. if they 'are supposed to' then it sounds like a potential civil liability if they have not done what they were supposed to do. >It’s your obligation to follow up with every single one of them individually or a lawyer could find some firms that did not do as they were supposed to, and some people that would have standing to sue, and ka-ching? This of course depends if my understand of "are supposed to" is correct.

justinclift 3y ago

> Finally it’s impossible to verify they actually did. Sounds like an opportunity for someone to set up a service which does. Do the verification I mean. :)

bmicraft 3y ago
Sounds like an opportunity to sell snake oil, when you can't actually verify they're doing anything at all
ClumsyPilot 3y ago
Well you see, in the business of verifying someone's background it's really common to break the law and get way with it. The Verifiers are criminals themselves.
- justinclift 3y ago
  Hmmm, it's not really immediately obvious why that would be the case. Are there some examples of this happening that you can point to? :)

leereeves 3y ago

Pardons don't expunge criminal records. Expungement is a judicial remedy that is rarely granted by the court and cannot be granted within the Department of Justice or by the President. https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions

bryanrasmussen 3y ago

>major caveat, all the data harvesting and background check firms generally do not proactively purge their data sets as they’re supposed to. if they 'are supposed to' then it sounds like a potential civil liability if they have not done what they were supposed to do. >It’s your obligation to follow up with every single one of them individually or a lawyer could find some firms that did not do as they were supposed to, and some people that would have standing to sue, and ka-ching? This of course depends if my understand of "are supposed to" is correct.