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I'd love a first-class WebKit-based browser on Linux. I have looked recently, am I missing one? Gnome Web is a like a Fischer-Price browser.

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ho_schi 3y ago
Epiphany is nice. Especially because it features a native toolkit with Gtk4. What few developers do is incredible :) Main issues: * Since introduction of sandboxing the memory-usage is far too high. It was pretty low before. * WebRTC. They had it nearly implemented years ago. Then removed it because they were unhappy with it. But their new approach isn’t available until now. * Many more developers needed. This means me? * Epiphany releases are linked to GNOME releases. Only applications which are integrated parts of GNOME should do that. The rigid six months release cycle is problematic. Regarding memory usage. Sandboxing depends on multi-process. The multi-process shouldn’t be an issue. The sandboxing was added in late 2019 and - if I remember correctly - Epiphany started to eat memory. Like probably most people I keep my tabs when closing/opening the Web-browser. The developers are nice and explained, that for all previous existing tabs a separate sandbox process and a render-process is already started with a blank page. And due to need separation no process is allowed to share memory with others. What is needed is only showing a label on the tab until the tab is actually used. And. Midori? There was previously also Midori using WebKitGtk. I liked it and it was pretty nice. But something awkward happened and an unrelated people took over the name and started to ship Electron (i.e. Google Chrome) as “Midori”. It looks untrustworthy to me, I recommend to not install it. If you use Midori on Archlinux you should be save - they ship and old and original version of Midori. But it is old. Apple, WebKit and WebKitGtk work together for many years. Good work.

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ho_schi 3y ago

Epiphany is nice. Especially because it features a native toolkit with Gtk4. What few developers do is incredible :) Main issues: * Since introduction of sandboxing the memory-usage is far too high. It was pretty low before. * WebRTC. They had it nearly implemented years ago. Then removed it because they were unhappy with it. But their new approach isn’t available until now. * Many more developers needed. This means me? * Epiphany releases are linked to GNOME releases. Only applications which are integrated parts of GNOME should do that. The rigid six months release cycle is problematic. Regarding memory usage. Sandboxing depends on multi-process. The multi-process shouldn’t be an issue. The sandboxing was added in late 2019 and - if I remember correctly - Epiphany started to eat memory. Like probably most people I keep my tabs when closing/opening the Web-browser. The developers are nice and explained, that for all previous existing tabs a separate sandbox process and a render-process is already started with a blank page. And due to need separation no process is allowed to share memory with others. What is needed is only showing a label on the tab until the tab is actually used. And. Midori? There was previously also Midori using WebKitGtk. I liked it and it was pretty nice. But something awkward happened and an unrelated people took over the name and started to ship Electron (i.e. Google Chrome) as “Midori”. It looks untrustworthy to me, I recommend to not install it. If you use Midori on Archlinux you should be save - they ship and old and original version of Midori. But it is old. Apple, WebKit and WebKitGtk work together for many years. Good work.