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While it seems like most people focus on CarPlay / Android Auto being omitted from all of GM's EVs, I think it's more worrisome that I've seen some articles abo

While it seems like most people focus on CarPlay / Android Auto being omitted from all of GM's EVs, I think it's more worrisome that I've seen some articles about various gremlins plaguing the electronics. For example, https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2024-chevy-blazer-ev-long-term-faults.html https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2024-chevy-blazer-ev-long-t... It's about the size of a Mach-E / Model Y and priced similarly, but I think that's optimistic for Chevrolet. At this point, the less expensive Equinox EV would likely be a lot more interesting.

kcb 3y ago
It's not priced well at all. Well equipped model at $40K-$45K should be the target if they actually want to build an EV that sells in volume. I'm increasingly convinced that they don't want to sell EVs in volume.
_ea1k 3y ago
Yes, and the Lyriq forums have a lot of complaints too. Too many given the small number of deliveries. It isn't a smooth launch at all, but honestly that isn't uncommon for fully new vehicles. I'm sure they'll get the biggest issues sorted out relatively soon.
al_borland 3y ago
Funny, considering they said removing CarPlay and Android Auto was for safety because they aren't 100% stable. I've had my phone using CarPlay reboot before. It wasn't big deal, the car still worked, I just didn't have my map or music for a minute. I'd much rather have CarPlay crash than lose connection to the "Drive Motor Control Module" or the "Brake System Control Module". I don't know exactly what those are, but they sure sound important. Something about stones and glass houses...
- arrowleaf 3y ago
  On my 2023 Subaru the infotainment system routinely crashes on startup, I think if I plug my phone in too soon after turning it on. I'm sure the engineers at GM (and those at Apple working on Car Play gen 2) have worked through all of these issues that have been plaguing infotainment systems since they were introduced. /s
arrowleaf 3y ago
With most vehicles being 'fly by wire' nowadays, do regulators like the NHTSA and FMCSA have their own software engineers / technology experts reviewing what's going into these vehicles? When 346 people died on the 737 Max 8s there was headline news speculating on the role of new software. The FAA had a lengthy investigation of Boeing and we saw pieces put out by experts like IEEE opining about what went wrong and how software played a role. Boeing paid $2.5bn to avoid being put on trial. 45,000 people in the USA die in motor vehicle incidents every year. How many hundreds if not thousands of those were caused by software faults? Is the software in sensor-based safety packages working as flawlessly as flight control systems? I bet more than 346 pedestrians have been killed by drivers of Subarus that have EyeSight packages, drivers who think EyeSight might make a difference in them not hitting someone if they aren't paying full attention to the road.
- xnx 3y ago
  FWIW I believe 'drive by wire' is exceedingly rare. The Lexus RZ450e and the Cybertruck are the only vehicles I know of where the steering wheel is not mechanically connected to the wheels.
  - arrowleaf 3y ago
    Oh, that's good to know. Throttles are commonly by-wire, but I must have misinterpreted the move away from hydraulic to electric steering assist as moving from mechanical to signals. Thank you for the correction.

kcb 3y ago

It's not priced well at all. Well equipped model at $40K-$45K should be the target if they actually want to build an EV that sells in volume. I'm increasingly convinced that they don't want to sell EVs in volume.

_ea1k 3y ago

Yes, and the Lyriq forums have a lot of complaints too. Too many given the small number of deliveries. It isn't a smooth launch at all, but honestly that isn't uncommon for fully new vehicles. I'm sure they'll get the biggest issues sorted out relatively soon.

al_borland 3y ago

Funny, considering they said removing CarPlay and Android Auto was for safety because they aren't 100% stable. I've had my phone using CarPlay reboot before. It wasn't big deal, the car still worked, I just didn't have my map or music for a minute. I'd much rather have CarPlay crash than lose connection to the "Drive Motor Control Module" or the "Brake System Control Module". I don't know exactly what those are, but they sure sound important. Something about stones and glass houses...

arrowleaf 3y ago
On my 2023 Subaru the infotainment system routinely crashes on startup, I think if I plug my phone in too soon after turning it on. I'm sure the engineers at GM (and those at Apple working on Car Play gen 2) have worked through all of these issues that have been plaguing infotainment systems since they were introduced. /s

arrowleaf 3y ago

With most vehicles being 'fly by wire' nowadays, do regulators like the NHTSA and FMCSA have their own software engineers / technology experts reviewing what's going into these vehicles? When 346 people died on the 737 Max 8s there was headline news speculating on the role of new software. The FAA had a lengthy investigation of Boeing and we saw pieces put out by experts like IEEE opining about what went wrong and how software played a role. Boeing paid $2.5bn to avoid being put on trial. 45,000 people in the USA die in motor vehicle incidents every year. How many hundreds if not thousands of those were caused by software faults? Is the software in sensor-based safety packages working as flawlessly as flight control systems? I bet more than 346 pedestrians have been killed by drivers of Subarus that have EyeSight packages, drivers who think EyeSight might make a difference in them not hitting someone if they aren't paying full attention to the road.

xnx 3y ago
FWIW I believe 'drive by wire' is exceedingly rare. The Lexus RZ450e and the Cybertruck are the only vehicles I know of where the steering wheel is not mechanically connected to the wheels.
- arrowleaf 3y ago
  Oh, that's good to know. Throttles are commonly by-wire, but I must have misinterpreted the move away from hydraulic to electric steering assist as moving from mechanical to signals. Thank you for the correction.